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Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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I wonder if artists who withdraw their music from services like this because they don't make "enough money" from them, realize they are getting paid again and again for me listening to albums I've already bought. You may not be getting paid in buckets and buckets of cash, but what you're getting is really just a freebie. You cannot complain about getting free money. If enough artists do this, services like Spotify wi…

I found a bunch of radio head CDs in a pile of rubbish.

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I had no idea that individual artists had any say in this (thought that the mega labels determined the fate of everything related to their signed artists). Or are Yorke and Godrich's solo arrangements with the labels nonstandard, which makes this possible?

From what I remember with Yorke and Radiohead, they're at a point where they have pretty much complete control. Whatever label they go with is just who they choose to do distribution.

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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For reference: Radiohead's pay-what-you-want model for In Rainbows was the first of its kind, and groundbreaking. It's entirely possible this starts a trend. On the other end: I don't like the idea of new artists not getting paid (I try to go out of my way and buy tickets for indie musicians I like or, failing that, purchase swag), but as a consumer I like Spotify a lot. It's also hard for me to conflate the ideas th…

I'd like to see a compare/contrast between profit per listener per song on Spotify compared to terrestrial radio.

I have a hunch that, per listener, they get more from Spotify.

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I had no idea that individual artists had any say in this (thought that the mega labels determined the fate of everything related to their signed artists). Or are Yorke and Godrich's solo arrangements with the labels nonstandard, which makes this possible?

The Atoms for Peace project is on XL Recordings which is distributed by Beggars Group. Beggars Group gives all of their artists 50% of streaming revenues.

Edit- One of many sources: http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/15/beggars-group-give-50-of-s...

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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I had no idea that individual artists had any say in this (thought that the mega labels determined the fate of everything related to their signed artists). Or are Yorke and Godrich's solo arrangements with the labels nonstandard, which makes this possible?

Radiohead had a 6-album contract with EMI, but from In Rainbows onwards Radiohead were able to call the shots a bit more, hence being able to release it with a 'pay-what-you-want' model.[1]

The article states that Radiohead's old stuff is still on Spotify, and that the albums removed were Thom Yorke's solo projects. So I imagine that EMI controls the first 6 albums, and so they are still on Spotify, while newer Radiohead content and Yorke's personal projects are more under his control.

This isn't a typical arrangement for new artists, they only got that because they were a huge superstar band already.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Rainbows#Release

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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post #3

For reference: Radiohead's pay-what-you-want model for In Rainbows was the first of its kind, and groundbreaking. It's entirely possible this starts a trend. On the other end: I don't like the idea of new artists not getting paid (I try to go out of my way and buy tickets for indie musicians I like or, failing that, purchase swag), but as a consumer I like Spotify a lot. It's also hard for me to conflate the ideas th…

$10/month for infinite access to all music ever created just isn't reasonable. And the ad revenue from a majority free user base for infinite access to all music ever created is definitely unreasonable. It's hard to argue with th connivence factor. However right now Spotify is destroying an existing model, not paying artists, and losing money hand over fist. It's lose/lose/lose. I'd rather consumers just pirate the m…

> $10/month for infinite access to all music ever created just isn't reasonable.

Why not? Most people go through a period of their life where they buy lots of albums, then they stop altogether. Flattening that out to be $10/month forever, divvied across artist based on content, would be a net win for everyone.

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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post #4

I wonder if artists who withdraw their music from services like this because they don't make "enough money" from them, realize they are getting paid again and again for me listening to albums I've already bought. You may not be getting paid in buckets and buckets of cash, but what you're getting is really just a freebie. You cannot complain about getting free money. If enough artists do this, services like Spotify wi…

> I wonder if artists who withdraw their music from services like this because they don't make "enough money" from them, realize they are getting paid again and again for me listening to albums I've already bought

I wonder how common that is? At least 90% of the things I listen to on Spotify are things that I have not bought on vinyl, CD, or any non-streaming online format.

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I have always wondered why Spotify does not raise their subscription fees (maybe after one year for example). If they asked me to pay more than $10/month, which seems a totally unreasonable number for everybody in this market, I would just do it because the convenience is awesome, and it is so much cheaper than any other legal alternatives for music lovers...

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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post #3

For reference: Radiohead's pay-what-you-want model for In Rainbows was the first of its kind, and groundbreaking. It's entirely possible this starts a trend. On the other end: I don't like the idea of new artists not getting paid (I try to go out of my way and buy tickets for indie musicians I like or, failing that, purchase swag), but as a consumer I like Spotify a lot. It's also hard for me to conflate the ideas th…

I created something like that: http://musiclove.rs

You hook up your last.fm profile and each week you get to divide an x amount of money between the artists you listened to. I've been using it myself for about a year now.

The only catch is that you need to find the email addresses of artists you want to pay to yourself, so they can be paid with PayPal.

This 'catch' allowed me to use it as single user for a year though so its very usable for me in this stage. Feel free to try it! Let me know what you think!

Re: Radiohead's Thom Yorke and Nigel Godrich Are Removing Their Music from Spotify

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post #3

For reference: Radiohead's pay-what-you-want model for In Rainbows was the first of its kind, and groundbreaking. It's entirely possible this starts a trend. On the other end: I don't like the idea of new artists not getting paid (I try to go out of my way and buy tickets for indie musicians I like or, failing that, purchase swag), but as a consumer I like Spotify a lot. It's also hard for me to conflate the ideas th…

side-comment: are you using 'swag' wrong or has now swag apparently become equivalent to merchandise or clothing or something.
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