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500friends, 42floors, 37signals... it's like Yahoo handlenames of the past, but for companies.
Yeah obviously. Who wants to hire gross old people in their shiny new startup.
Agile is only 12 years old [1], so it might be related to the old programmer joke about HR posting job ads that require 'x' years experience with 'y' year-old tech, for some x > y. But that's grasping at straws, and if that is the intention it's a really unfortunate way of putting it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development * edited to address the mistake MaysonL pointed out. Thanks!
Yeah obviously. Who wants to hire gross old people in their shiny new startup.
Agile is only 12 years old [1], so it might be related to the old programmer joke about HR posting job ads that require 'x' years experience with 'y' year-old tech, for some x > y. But that's grasping at straws, and if that is the intention it's a really unfortunate way of putting it. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development * edited to address the mistake MaysonL pointed out. Thanks!
I am not a lawyer, but is this not illegal in the U.S.? Checking The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission website[1], it says under the "PROHIBITION OF AGE DISCRIMINATION" section: (e) Printing or publication of notice or advertisement indicating preference, limitation, etc. [1] http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adea.cfm
They're not putting specific limitations on age , but on experience . I'm pretty sure the latter is as kosher as matzoh.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like they're breaking the law to me, but it's not completely black and white. In the odd chance it would happen, wouldn't saying "20+ years of experience required", prevent anyone younger then 20 years from joining the company?
I'm not a lawyer but my guess is requiring years of experience isn't discrimination since it would only help, not hurt, the protected class (older workers).
One way to interpret this is that the Agile Manifesto was published in 2001, so although it's possible you managed agile teams before 2001 it's unlikely, or if you've been successfully managing agile teams since before the manifesto and you're interested in a startup... what's wrong w/ you (seriously... if you're crushing it w/ agile for 12 years and now enterprises are all scrum-happy and you aren't making boatloads…
Nah... Lightweight processes were discussed as alternatives to waterfall way back in the 90s during my software engineering courses. "Rapid application development" and RAtional unified process were the "hot" lightweight methodologies when I started work in 1996. Scrum has been with us since 1995.
All that existed before 2001 was waterfall. Nothing else. Just waterfall. Only waterfall. You are mistaken in thinking that iterative delivery, spiral models, joint application development, daily build-n-smoke, test harnesses or any such practice or technology existed previously.
Then in 2001, Agile sprung fully-formed from the brow of Zeus and saved us. Agile has no predecessors whatsoever and completely invalides decades of careful observation, discussion and investigation by generations of software developers and managers.
All books and articles published before 2001 can be safely ignored, and nothing can be learned therefrom.
500friends, 42floors, 37signals... it's like Yahoo handlenames of the past, but for companies.