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Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

#13

Post by el_fuser »

Not only is it blatantly ageist... It's stupid.

They want someone that has been building engineering organizations for 5-12 years, after having been an individual contributor.

Then, they want you to drop back into an individual contributor role. At least initially. Wink wink nudge nudge.

Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

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Post by clone1018 »

qnk wrote: post #9

I am not a lawyer, but is this not illegal in the U.S.? Checking The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission website[1], it says under the "PROHIBITION OF AGE DISCRIMINATION" section: (e) Printing or publication of notice or advertisement indicating preference, limitation, etc. [1] http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adea.cfm

Seems like they're breaking the law to me, but it's not completely black and white. In the odd chance it would happen, wouldn't saying "20+ years of experience required", prevent anyone younger then 20 years from joining the company?

Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

#16

Post by dlgeek »

clone1018 wrote: post #15
qnk wrote: post #9

I am not a lawyer, but is this not illegal in the U.S.? Checking The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission website[1], it says under the "PROHIBITION OF AGE DISCRIMINATION" section: (e) Printing or publication of notice or advertisement indicating preference, limitation, etc. [1] http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adea.cfm

Seems like they're breaking the law to me, but it's not completely black and white. In the odd chance it would happen, wouldn't saying "20+ years of experience required", prevent anyone younger then 20 years from joining the company?

Actually, in the US, discrimination against younger people isn't illegal - it's only illegal to discriminate the other way 'round.

Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

#17

Post by rosser »

qnk wrote: post #9

I am not a lawyer, but is this not illegal in the U.S.? Checking The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission website[1], it says under the "PROHIBITION OF AGE DISCRIMINATION" section: (e) Printing or publication of notice or advertisement indicating preference, limitation, etc. [1] http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adea.cfm

They're not putting specific limitations on age, but on experience. I'm pretty sure the latter is as kosher as matzoh.

Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

#18

Post by clone1018 »

dlgeek wrote: post #16
clone1018 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like they're breaking the law to me, but it's not completely black and white. In the odd chance it would happen, wouldn't saying "20+ years of experience required", prevent anyone younger then 20 years from joining the company?

Actually, in the US, discrimination against younger people isn't illegal - it's only illegal to discriminate the other way 'round.

Oh, did not know. Thanks!

Re: VP of Engineering - "best of the best" = no more than 12 years experience?

#19

Post by emidln »

el_fuser wrote: post #13

Not only is it blatantly ageist... It's stupid. They want someone that has been building engineering organizations for 5-12 years, after having been an individual contributor. Then , they want you to drop back into an individual contributor role. At least initially. Wink wink nudge nudge.

It's not ageist. It doesn't say People who are 50 need not apply. From reading this job posting, someone who is 80, worked as a mechanic, a waiter, a clerk, and then picked up some newfangled technology might qualify.

Besides the whole Agile not being codified for more than 12 years thing, if you've been out of the loop managing for 12 years, they say they don't want you. Part of the process apparently involves showing that your technical skills are still there.

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