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Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by rdtsc »

zedshaw wrote: post #13

Well must be a slow news day today so I'll say a few things about FuqIt for the high-minded HN crowd: 1. Don't run this at all in anyway that someone can access it. It's ultra hackable. Extra points if people can point out why. 2. I basically am just goofing off. The idea though is this thought: "What if PHP got it right?" 3. There's some little tricks in there you may not have seen before. Take a look at the code if…

Hey Zed that's pretty cool.

I think this was submitted with a back-thought of possibly generating ridicule. It doesn't matter, anyone coding and playing with shit like this gets upvotes from me.

I also like web.py (the framework conceived and built by Aaron Swartz) for some of the same reasons -- simplicity and cleanliness. Start with something like "let's see how would a clean and simple web framework look like in Python." That's beautiful I think. Yeah I know it hasn't exactly taken off and flask and friends surpassed it but I still like it.

EDIT: corrected Aaraon Swartz's name (thanks bensw)

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by 616c »

recuter wrote: post #39
zedshaw wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, works pretty well actually, but not secure yet. It's a hack to test out the idea.

You're my favorite. :) Didn't you do a lua microframework? I'm more intrigued by that one but whatever gets your creative juices flowing, godspeed.

Github lists his repos, you know. :-) But thanks for pointing this out. I am getting interested in Lua and was unaware of this.

https://github.com/zedshaw/Tir

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by bensw »

rdtsc wrote: post #61
zedshaw wrote: post #13

Well must be a slow news day today so I'll say a few things about FuqIt for the high-minded HN crowd: 1. Don't run this at all in anyway that someone can access it. It's ultra hackable. Extra points if people can point out why. 2. I basically am just goofing off. The idea though is this thought: "What if PHP got it right?" 3. There's some little tricks in there you may not have seen before. Take a look at the code if…

Hey Zed that's pretty cool. I think this was submitted with a back-thought of possibly generating ridicule. It doesn't matter, anyone coding and playing with shit like this gets upvotes from me. I also like web.py (the framework conceived and built by Aaron Swartz) for some of the same reasons -- simplicity and cleanliness. Start with something like "let's see how would a clean and simple web framework look like in P…

s/Schwarz/Swartz

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by oriste »

ch0wn wrote: post #26
toyg wrote: post #4

Excuse my French, but... if this hadn't been written by an internet celeb, nobody would have given two shits about it.

The thing with internet celebs in the programming community is that they mostly are celebrities for a reason and not just because they are the pretty daughter of some billionaire.

Zed is not the pretty daughter of a billionaire?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by invisible »

nostrademons wrote: post #46
jamesaguilar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on how much you want to reduce it, you can dismiss almost anything having to do with a webserver this way. Some more powerful versions that dismiss any and all computer related ideas that have output: - But isn't that just calling a bunch of syscalls? - But isn't that just moving a bunch of bytes around?

Well, yes, but I picked CGI for a reason. Zed says in one of the other comments that the inspiration for this was "What if PHP got it right?" PHP came out of a long tradition of CGI apps, as a way to make templating dead-simple and still provide a bunch of programming language tools. The brilliant idea behind CGI is that you set a directory as your cgi-bin, drop an executable file, and then the webserver will run tha…

But you were downplaying the project because it is "basically CGI" (inaccurate already). In context I think you'll find you were being hostile about the matter.

Anyway, it is the start of an idea with a proclaimed possible direction (basic error handling, basic web server functionality). It doesn't do a lot right now (and maybe it never will) but it isn't just CGI.

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by jamwt »

synparb wrote: post #48
gojomo wrote: post #16

There's a niche for something that's as sloppy-easy-to-get-started as PHP, but with a more concise/consistent/powerful language. Perhaps, a "PYP" - Python with PHP characteristics. This is a little like that.

I feel like http://aspen.io/ sort of does something like this already. Written in Python and just uses the filesystem to generate content rather than a MVC.

Yes, I really feel like aspen is exactly this, and very well done too. Already has real-world things running on it, like http://gittip.com .

Re: The FuqIt Web Framework

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Post by hayksaakian »

Demiurge wrote: post #29
hayksaakian wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard of you, but I liked the idea behind a PHP replacement.

In my experience with a new PHP developers, the first hurdle is explaining that urls have nothing to do with the filesystem.

(I don't do PHP) I had the same issue starting with using web APIs in java.

It's understandable though as the early web was essentially serving a filesystem directly (almost ftp).

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