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Re: Iranian Hackers Post Images Over JFK Airport From UAV That Was Hijacked In March

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Post by rdtsc »

summerdown2 wrote: post #55
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He actually has a point, sadly. Visiting a "Jihadist" website, based on some arbitrary definition and interpretation from some cyber freedom fighter in DC, VA, or MD, is enough to get your "metadata" added to their graphs. You think Iranian sites with posts about hacking the US aren't on that list? I don't. It's not enough to get you a visit from the feds or anything, but it's almost certain that any competent intell…

Is this really the point we've reached? Where people with no intention of being a terrorist are bothered about visiting a site because they know everything they do is being observed? If we've reached the point of self censoring behaviour, then we're definitely in the Panopticon. The harder it becomes to break out of our filter bubbles, the more foreigners will look alien, strange and scary :(

Very interesting idea. So NSA's spying was exposed, everyone noticed, talked about it, and it seems like a good thing. But spying didn't stop. Operations didn't change. Neither NSA, White House, Google, or Facebook said they'll stop participating. No apologies.

So all that changed so far is that everyone starts behaving or acting keeping in mind that they are watched. Self censoring is very powerful. It would be interesting to see the rate in filter hits NSA gets on "terrorist-y" keywords before vs after the leaks. That would indicate the amount of self-censoring. We'll never see those statistics anytime soon, but someone is seeing it. Wonder what they are thinking or how they are interpreting this.

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Post by kissickas »

msoad wrote: post #27
omegant wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of mystic poems? autors? not precisely these ones but generally. I find it interesting.

I'm not sure about authors, but I can try to translate. To give you a context, these poems are written by gnostic who believed they saw the real truth and they had no fear of dying because you can not never kill their souls. I assume any culture has this sort of things" First poem: We are stuck in a deep well of the bad thinking one Our message would not reach to you (God?) easily Second (red) I have experienced a lo…

It is definitely not a part of the Qur'an. Can't say I know what it is though.

Re: Iranian Hackers Post Images Over JFK Airport From UAV That Was Hijacked In March

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Post by qq66 »

marshray wrote: post #47

All I see are two images of nondescript buildings and cars labeled "FLIR Systems". Would an actual drone image used for reconnaissance over hostile territory waste a bunch of screen area on the manufacturer name of the camera? Also, there's some censored text in the upper left. I suspect that's the date and time. My guess is these pictures were lifted from promotional material like the "MicroSTAR" sheet just below it…

FLIR uses that text for price discrimination - the camera is much more expensive without the text.

Re: Iranian Hackers Post Images Over JFK Airport From UAV That Was Hijacked In March

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Post by magicalist »

marshray wrote: post #47

All I see are two images of nondescript buildings and cars labeled "FLIR Systems". Would an actual drone image used for reconnaissance over hostile territory waste a bunch of screen area on the manufacturer name of the camera? Also, there's some censored text in the upper left. I suspect that's the date and time. My guess is these pictures were lifted from promotional material like the "MicroSTAR" sheet just below it…

I'm surprised no one else in this thread has said anything. Maybe there's some more context?

The only context provided so far is that LA Times article talking about a sighting of an "unmanned aircraft or drone" near JFK in March, with (AFAICT) no connection with this forum post at all, except one or more of the posts in that thread also seem to mention JFK.

Is anyone actually taking this seriously? Do people not know that forums are full of bullshit the world over?

Edit: in fact, this person seems to be pushing these "Parastoo" self-published press releases rather hard, which themselves seem to be bullshit aimed at pressing members of the IAEA to publicly denounce Israel (while trumpeting their own hacker cred, of course). The only way anyone is ever going to see the threats in those releases is if they get eyes on them. There may be a story in chaining together these seemingly grandiose claims, but it's not in this random forum post of non-descript screenshots, and until I see evidence otherwise, I'm going to go ahead and assume this person is here to try and get "grassroots" attention on their self promotion.

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Post by D9u »

marshray wrote: post #47

All I see are two images of nondescript buildings and cars labeled "FLIR Systems". Would an actual drone image used for reconnaissance over hostile territory waste a bunch of screen area on the manufacturer name of the camera? Also, there's some censored text in the upper left. I suspect that's the date and time. My guess is these pictures were lifted from promotional material like the "MicroSTAR" sheet just below it…

I thought "FLIR" meant "Forward Looking InfraRed?"

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Post by achughes »

jeena wrote: post #66
summerdown2 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this really the point we've reached? Where people with no intention of being a terrorist are bothered about visiting a site because they know everything they do is being observed? If we've reached the point of self censoring behaviour, then we're definitely in the Panopticon. The harder it becomes to break out of our filter bubbles, the more foreigners will look alien, strange and scary :(

Isn't this self censoring one of the main goals of a Orwellian society?

Yes, but to be Orwellian the self-censorship must be borne out of government intimidation. In this case the government hasn't intimidated anyone, we were just leaked information.

Unless you want to argue that Snowden intentionally leaked the PRISM slides so that society would be intimidated by the governments reach, thus giving way to society censoring itself without them having to publicly punish people that were guilty of thought crimes. But that's getting into Alex Jones territory.

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Post by marshray »

soheil wrote: post #63
JeremyMorgan wrote: post #43

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You know, I feel the same way. They may be our enemies and want to destroy us, but being able to see their side of things is refreshing. We can't continue to act like we're the perfect country and everyone else is 100% evil. It's not that simple.

The Iranian government has no point of view worth its salt. It's a repressive regime and the more we buy into their crap the more we're actually harming the people of that country.

You may be right that they have no worthwhile point of view and I don't think I know anyone who actually "buys into their crap".

But the idea of somehow avoiding ever encountering a certain point of view on the global internet is even more stupid.

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Post by javert »

summerdown2 wrote: post #55
lawnchair_larry wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He actually has a point, sadly. Visiting a "Jihadist" website, based on some arbitrary definition and interpretation from some cyber freedom fighter in DC, VA, or MD, is enough to get your "metadata" added to their graphs. You think Iranian sites with posts about hacking the US aren't on that list? I don't. It's not enough to get you a visit from the feds or anything, but it's almost certain that any competent intell…

Is this really the point we've reached? Where people with no intention of being a terrorist are bothered about visiting a site because they know everything they do is being observed? If we've reached the point of self censoring behaviour, then we're definitely in the Panopticon. The harder it becomes to break out of our filter bubbles, the more foreigners will look alien, strange and scary :(

My political ideals happen to align closely with the Founding Fathers, and I've been vocal enough about that to assume that if the feds care, they already know. So I just don't really care what they know about me anymore. If it comes to the point that it looks like they might start rounding up people like me, I'll flee the country, like a German Jew ideally would have in 1930s Germany. If it doesn't come to that point, it doesn't really matter what they know about me.

Re: Iranian Hackers Post Images Over JFK Airport From UAV That Was Hijacked In March

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Post by jeena »

soheil wrote: post #63
JeremyMorgan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, I feel the same way. They may be our enemies and want to destroy us, but being able to see their side of things is refreshing. We can't continue to act like we're the perfect country and everyone else is 100% evil. It's not that simple.

The Iranian government has no point of view worth its salt. It's a repressive regime and the more we buy into their crap the more we're actually harming the people of that country.

I wonder if right now we could replace the word "Iranian" with "US" and it would still be true?
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