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DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point, These Darpa terminators are just the visible threat, its the classified nano robots that control us from inside that we should fear

I think you're joking, but what you just said would make a great parody of the nuts over in that other thread that are hypothesizing that the NSA is possibly keeping 5D glass hard drive technology a secret from us.

classified nanorobot technology is no joke.

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Used to think these things were cool but now that I can't trust my government anymore... I find them deeply disturbing.

Just because they are being transparent with their research?

50 years ago the US govt had amazingly cool technology (SR-71, satellites, nukes, computers, submarines, lasers, chemical weapons) but it was kept halfway secretive.

Just because some people are uncomfortable with new technology shouldn't mean that the government is untrustworthy or evil. If anything, the transparency makes them more trustworthy.

The stuff the CDC works with is 1,000 times more destructive than any humanoid robot prototype. Imagine if they posted a video, "well, this little vial of liquid will cause your skin to fall off and your organs to melt."

Do you think other countries are going to avoid this type of research? Humanoid robots have been developed in Japan for 20 years.

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ARPA funded the early efforts of building the internet.... the D came later

Thanks for the clarification

Both, really: 'ARPA, was renamed to "DARPA" (for Defense) in March 1972, then renamed "ARPA" again in February 1993, and then renamed "DARPA" again in March 1996.' (Copied from wikipedia.)

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Why does it have two lenses on its head instead of just one?

Two video cameras allow stereo vision for placing obstacles, etc., into a map for motion planning.

This robot also uses a laser range finder for mapping, but there are trade offs between the two approaches, so often they are used together.

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Disaster recovery, assistance and space applications (asteroid mining?) are the only real applications of these robots. This is not going to be useful in the military. The only advantage it may have over humans is increased accuracy, and even then, a mobile gun platform on wheels will do a much better job. This robot is less mobile, less reliable, less endurable, much less smart and much less flexible than any averag…

You are raising a good point, but you are probably wrong ("this century").

Tracked vehicles run by joystick are now used operationally for IEDs. There are resupply and "lug extra cargo" missions that Big Dog is very close to fulfilling right now. There are "augment human teams" missions that smaller legged, tracked, and wheeled platforms are getting close to fulfilling. (Go into this building and look around, take up this position and guard this building entrance while the rest of the team goes in elsewhere.)

The humanoid robot can perform these tasks in a more versatile way, as mentioned elsewhere in these comments, because it can adapt to many real world situations where humans are present (e.g., doors, stairs, ladders, vehicles).

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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Terminator has always been one of my favorite movies, and reality has an uncanny way of getting us closer and closer to the fantasy. We justify this new technology in the same way - "it's for our protection"! Dictators run into trouble when the armies decide they won't attack a local population because, hey, it's their families and friends we're talking about. Robots eliminate that pesky detail. Imagine how a secessi…

One day my dad spotted me playing Mech Warrior, and asked:

"Why bipedal war machines? That is stupid, just push them over and they now are useless."

After that, I never figured why someone would build a bipedal war machine, even though I still have my nerdgasms watching all the mecha anime, movies and games...

Anyone has a idea of why the hell someone would build a bipedal war machine?

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A robot that drives a vehicle can be an integral part of that vehicle, likely far cheaper than a humanoid robot that fits in the seat (and also shares the human driver's disadvantage of poor peripheral vision.)

Then how about being able to be a passenger in a vehicle with any special modification?

Exactly. Entering a vehicle was one of the challenges in the most recent DARPA evaluation of teams developing high level control software for this robot.

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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post #56
post #13

Terminator has always been one of my favorite movies, and reality has an uncanny way of getting us closer and closer to the fantasy. We justify this new technology in the same way - "it's for our protection"! Dictators run into trouble when the armies decide they won't attack a local population because, hey, it's their families and friends we're talking about. Robots eliminate that pesky detail. Imagine how a secessi…

One day my dad spotted me playing Mech Warrior, and asked: "Why bipedal war machines? That is stupid, just push them over and they now are useless." After that, I never figured why someone would build a bipedal war machine, even though I still have my nerdgasms watching all the mecha anime, movies and games... Anyone has a idea of why the hell someone would build a bipedal war machine?

> Anyone has a idea of why the hell someone would build a bipedal war machine?

People get confused operating other body-forms, and when strapped into a waldo style remote rig they need something close to human for ease of use?

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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When the US uses robots like this in war (and it will) we will enjoy a significant reduction in casualties and probably an increase in battle victories. This will probably embolden future US leaders, similar to when the US had the only nuclear weapons.

During the cold war we learned the hard way that time lowers costs of technology, and soon everyone had nuclear weapons.

I am sure the same will happen with robotic warriors and I fear the day when a terrorist can pilot a drone over my home and kill me with the same prejudice we use when piloting drones in the middle east today.

My only hope is that some politicians also understand this and move to create international robotic warrior regulations and treaties. I am skeptical of this happening however. It is always more fun to lord your power over your enemies today than to have some foresight.

Re: DARPA and Boston Dynamics unveil a new humanoid robot

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When the US uses robots like this in war (and it will) we will enjoy a significant reduction in casualties and probably an increase in battle victories. This will probably embolden future US leaders, similar to when the US had the only nuclear weapons. During the cold war we learned the hard way that time lowers costs of technology, and soon everyone had nuclear weapons. I am sure the same will happen with robotic wa…

Having an international inspection system to watch for the development of nuclear weapons would seem a much easier task than one that would be needed to monitor for the development of robotic warrior/weapon systems. The pieces needed for the later can much more easily look like normal production/assembly tool development given that they are, in fact, largely the same pieces.
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