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Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by mark_l_watson »

teawithcarl wrote: post #15

Here's The Guardian's LIVE BLOG of the Snowden human rights meeting, and subsequent press conference. (excellent) http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-...

Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed."

Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating factor in breaking the law. I hope he does not get screwed over too badly and eventually has a normal life.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by teawithcarl »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #21
teawithcarl wrote: post #15

Here's The Guardian's LIVE BLOG of the Snowden human rights meeting, and subsequent press conference. (excellent) http://guardiannews.com/world/2013/jul/12/edward-snowden-to-...

Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed." Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating fact…

Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also).

Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago.

Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by antocv »

staz wrote: post #20
xxchan wrote: post #19

I find it disconcerting that a significant portion of those invited are simply "too busy" to attend. Wouldn't you WANT human rights activists to stir trouble instead of avoiding it?

I also find it a bit strange than a Human Right Activist would just put the letter on her frigging facebook wall

With his email, thank you, now commence the spamming by NSA.

What is this 1999, when 99% of the people seem to be computer illiterate? On her facebook wall she posts his email and letter in full!? Well, seems we are at the point of frictionless sharing, let the hacking begin people - nothing is secret, no respect for anyones privacy!

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by phreeza »

teawithcarl wrote: post #22
mark_l_watson wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, that was useful. Interesting that he is asking for asylum again in Russia, stating that he intends no harm to the USA. "No actions I take or plan are meant to harm the US ... I want the US to succeed." Just my personal opinion, but I believe that Snowden did a good service to citizens of my country (USA). The fact that he probably destroyed his own life doing what he thought was necessary is a mitigating fact…

Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also). Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago. Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.

rate limiting != censorship

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by jlgaddis »

jgrahamc wrote: post #2

So, lavabit.com just got a whole load more customers.

I found what appears to be a PGP key of his a few weeks ago:

http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&se...

I thought about signing it and sending it back to the keyserver but didn't feel like having a discussion with the feds.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by teawithcarl »

phreeza wrote: post #24
teawithcarl wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. Hacker News is censoring me, limiting me to 1-2 posts a day, and quickly flagging all my posts. (This post was flagged also). Notice my comment "posted about" the Guardian LIVE BLOG two hours ago, and yet the LIVE BLOG is only now reaching HN a few minutes ago, by another HN user. That's because HN disallowed my submitting it two hours ago. Keep in mind, I work/research fighting Chinese censorship.

rate limiting != censorship

To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by eli »

xxchan wrote: post #19

I find it disconcerting that a significant portion of those invited are simply "too busy" to attend. Wouldn't you WANT human rights activists to stir trouble instead of avoiding it?

It is perhaps a polite way of saying they do not wish to be a part of it?

And no, I don't think human rights activists goal should be to cause the most trouble.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by eli »

teawithcarl wrote: post #26
phreeza wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

rate limiting != censorship

To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.

Which is fair -- do we really need 4+ front page stories about this same event?

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by dmix »

savszymura wrote: post #7
jgrahamc wrote: post #2

So, lavabit.com just got a whole load more customers.

>Lavabit will only release private information if legally compelled by the courts in accordance with the United States Constitution. Strange that Snowden decided to choose this one.

I'm curious if his PGP signature was redacted from the email with the cell phone number.

Re: Edward Snowden appears at Moscow airport and renews asylum claim

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Post by mmariani »

eli wrote: post #28
teawithcarl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To discern the subtle censorship HN is doing, just divide upvotes/minutes on the HN homepage. HN may have decided that "Snowden news" is not hacker news. Definitely, articles are getting flagged.

Which is fair -- do we really need 4+ front page stories about this same event?

When something of value to this community I dare to say yes.

For instance http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsmw5vkyxT1qba239.png

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