Is that the sparrow logo in one of the screenshots? ...
Yeah, looks like they took it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sparrow_icon.png
Plug: the brain of your devices
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Re: Plug: the brain of your devices
#92Hmm. Plug will apparently retail for $150. If I look at the dual band 802.11n router I have which happens to have a USB host port for NAS (which seems to be common these days?), it's $87 on Amazon, and of course if you don't want the router part you can get something for much less, or just use an existing desktop if you don't mind the power bill. Of course much of the value is in the convenience of setup and the full…
Looks like you can just download the client software for free and do the home PC/Router approach without having to use a plug: http://www.tonido.com/tonidodesktop_pricing/
That appears to be a different company.
Re: Plug: the brain of your devices
#93So, can someone from Plug explain what you're really trying to accomplish.
I'm already stuck at "They have one content, but multiple devices. So they spend a lot of time just figuring out where are their documents. And they keep moving their files to-and-from tiny Cloud folders. " It doesn't mean anything.
Is this private cloud storage with auto-syncing across all your devices? That already exists, to the extent that it does just that, if you know what I mean.
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#95I was piecing something like this together on my own with a laptop and a pile of external hard drives, when I found my desk overrun by the little things. They were too fragile and didn't stack well. I started looking around for a shelf to hold external hard drives and do cable routing, when it hit me "oh yeah, that's called a desktop computer." So I bought a nice computer case and a relatively inexpensive motherboard…
I went through a similar phase trying to use an OpenWRT router plus external hard drives for file sharing. The main problems are performance and reliability. I can only get 20 MB/s read and 10 MB/s write using a decent router with a decent processor (MIPS 74Kc). Plus, USB connection is much less reliable and sometimes the drives would get disconnected.
From the kickstarter page, Plug can only do 30 Mb/s, which is ~4 MB/s and likely not enough to stream Bluray ISO. A fast enough processor is essential for NAS.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed, I wasn't suggesting that any one of those things was technically infeasible, but that "putting it together" is a very large undertaking, because there are a lot of things they're trying to put together. I don't think FUSE is how this works: see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6027569 .
FUSE is just a file system layer, I CAN implement a versioning distributed filesystem through FUSE, nothing in FUSE stops me from doing that.
I don't think you read the thread I linked to.
Re: Plug: the brain of your devices
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except its easy to build RAID enclosures that are USB mass storage devices. Plus, it replicates data across multiple Plugs in different location, and I think the Plug software also shares data on your computer (which can be RAIDed) through your private Plug network as well.
RAID is not a backup solution. If your filesystem is corrupted in software (or you just mistype and delete something important), it will happily replicate the damage across all of your drives. Personally I feel recommending RAID to home users is generally a bad idea. It gives a false sense of security.
I setup unRaid for my wife's photography business. Haven't had to deal with an HD failure yet though so I can't vouch for it. Might be worth looking into yourself though for a cheap backup solution.
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#98This seems like a very ambitious project, which is great. It does seem at risk of boiling the ocean. They're taking on: * NAS device with encrypted file storage and UPNP * setting up a VPN * client software for said VPN on each platform (or at least installers that can configure each platform's native VPN support) * multi-device file sync * whole -device file sync, with client software for each platform, presumably w…
All these are already done by our Tonido ( http://www.tonido.com ) and TonidoPlug project and it is available and it works.
Are these still on the old Marvell Armada SoC? I'm still running a Dreamplug as a gateway/mini server and it's hamstrung by everything running over USB.
Re: Plug: the brain of your devices
#99Reminds me of the PogoPlug[1]. I came across it when buying a SheevaPlug, the device it was originally built on. [1]: http://pogoplug.com/devices
I had the Sheeva, and I now have the Dreamplug. I wish someone would bring one of these to market with USB3 and still have the dual-GigE's.
Re: Plug: the brain of your devices
#100Hmm. Plug will apparently retail for $150. If I look at the dual band 802.11n router I have which happens to have a USB host port for NAS (which seems to be common these days?), it's $87 on Amazon, and of course if you don't want the router part you can get something for much less, or just use an existing desktop if you don't mind the power bill. Of course much of the value is in the convenience of setup and the full…
Have you ever tried to modify a router? If someone hasn't already done it for OpenWRT, it's very very difficult - and that's even if the vendor will release usable sources.
The "Plug"-class devices are a little bit more open and easier to develop for, but Marvell are still a bit silly with some of their stuff (libertas Wifi/BT)