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Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by russellsprouts »

auctiontheory wrote: post #117

In my experience, 99% of people don't know the first thing about taking a good photograph. They will not be helped by a 41-megapixel or even 41-gigapixel camera. Beyond a point, all the pixel density does is dramatically increase their storage requirements - on the camera, on the computer they sync with their camera, and on their backup device. 41 megapixels is well into the realm of negative marginal returns.

It does not take 41 megapixel pictures, only 5 megapixel pictures. It used a 41 megapixel sensor, then down-samples it. This results in a higher quality picture.

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Post by vermontdevil »

jcarney wrote: post #49
mtgx wrote: post #33

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And that's the problem with Nokia and their phones. People are buying them for the hardware, despite the OS. They could sell so much more with Android. I'd say they could even beat Samsung in sales eventually (again). But right now I can't even extrapolate how much time it would take them to ever do that, if even possible.

I am glad that there's more competition in the marketplace rather than just Apple and Android and that there are companies looking beyond earnings in their next quarter. Apple could have probably made more money over the years by selling Macs with Windows and retiring their own OS. Competition is good, for example see the flat look and concentration on typography that both Android and iOS borrowed from Windows Phone.…

Exactly.

I tell everyone competition benefits us all. I find people railing at iOS or Android or anything else ridiculous.

Yet people persist in that. Oh well.

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Post by tommis »

ctruzzi wrote: post #100
300bps wrote: post #63

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I went from iOS Google Maps->Apple Maps->iOS Google Maps on my iPhones. The Google Maps worked really well. The HERE Drive+ from Nokia Maps though is fantastic. One nice feature (of many)... it shows you the current speed limit on every road that you're on. It also shows you your current speed and it is dead-on accurate. It can even be set to give an alert if you exceed the speed limit by x MPH. Hands down, the built…

That's the one part I don't like about it but that's because I go 5-15MPH over the speed limit at all times.

you can adjust the limit at which point it alerts you. You can set when the alert will go off area that have below 80km/h speed and those with speed over 80km/h. Mine is set to ping on 15km/h+ on the slower areas and 18km/h+over on the higher.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by mng2 »

gebe wrote: post #66
untog wrote: post #59

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At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

Nokia Maps is _amazing_ and has been since the Symbian days, even more so by the fact that you can download maps beforehand (whole countries) and use them offline. Utterly unparalleled might be a bit harsh.

I agree. In fact, I'm still using a Symbian phone, and the maps still work. (Offline maps are essentially the only smartphone-esque feature that I make use of on a regular basis, so I feel no need to upgrade.)

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Post by davidcollantes »

barista wrote: post #107
davidcollantes wrote: post #101

41 megapixel camera, how big are those photos, and how much space will the phone come with?

Comes with 32 GB I think and the photos are 5MB I think.

5 MB only? Wow. My 12 megapixel Canon D30 used to take raw photos that were 20-24 MB in size.

The 32 GB will get reduced by the OS, I am sure.

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Post by martingordon »

sp332 wrote: post #76
martingordon wrote: post #64

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The OS doesn't matter; the apps do (at least the few "important" ones). Most notably absent from WP is Instagram, which will be resolved when Hipstamatic launches for the OS.

Don't Fhotoroom http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/fhotoroom/acad1e... or Metrogram http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/metrogram/5dec28... let you share photos on Instagram already? Disclaimer: I've never used them.

The public Instagram API is read-only and it looks like the Windows Phone apps that support uploading do so through something called Instagraph, which seems to be an unsupported method of getting photos onto Instagram.

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Post by slantyyz »

sukuriant wrote: post #121
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #97

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I see this copy/paste a lot. And while MP doesn't mean better dynamic range, lower noise, faster shutter speeds, or higher ISO performance saying that it isn't "higher quality" is nonsense. Higher megapixels literally mean more information about a scene stored by the sensor. Now that information might not be more accurate than a camera with lower MP, but even with that being the case it does better allow you to sub-d…

The issue I have with super-high megapixel cameras isn't that number, it's the sensor density. At certain densities, light begins to behave different because of the shape of the sensor and it doesn't capture the image correctly anymore. This is part of the reason why a 16MP SLR and a 16MP point-and-shoot have vastly different image qualities. As for your SLR, 16MP, even around 20MP is still well within the "light beh…

But, the Nokia has a 1/1.2" sensor. That's huge -- almost 5.5x times the surface area of the iPhone 5's sensor. It's almost as large as the sensor in a Nikon 1 or Sony RX100 series camera.

Yes, the pixels are small at ~1.44 microns (I think most experts consider 6 microns to be the "ideal" size) so I would think the pixel density is actually lower than most cameraphones (the iPhone 5 is around ~1.39 microns).

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Post by nivla »

devcpp wrote: post #106
untog wrote: post #59

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At the risk of starting a device war, I'd agree with everything you've said, except that Android does a lot of those important things better still. Maps in particular- Google Maps is utterly unparalleled. But it's all down to the user- I have no requirement for Remote Desktop support, so that doesn't matter to me. I don't use OneNote or Office, and use Dropbox for file syncing.

So none of you guys cares about openness, uh? Too bad, if more people, we wouldn't have the problem of closed platforms to begin with.

I actually care more about having competition and choices than just openness. Open source softwares suffer from stagnation just like the closed ones when they are left with no competition. Which is why I am actively rooting for Ubuntu Mobile and Firefox OS. I am also hoping with more Mobile OSes, we will start seeing standards to interact and share data between them.

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Post by Livven »

untog wrote: post #50
ing33k wrote: post #47

I am a huge fan of android , but using wp since the past 3 months, I hope that people who comment badly about wp will use it once before complaining about it.

I used Windows Phone 7. The UI was fantastic. The platform innovation was poor. The Maps app (including the Nokia one) was poor- and utterly terrible at interpreting addresses. Any IM experience outside of the built-in (and not extendable) native options was awful. I want to like WP, but in many ways it was a mercy when MS decided that my (few month-old) phone wasn't going to get any updates any more and persuaded me…

Why is this being downvoted? I use an HTC 8X as my main phone but the points mentioned in this comment are perfectly true. For comparison I also own a Galaxy Nexus and 4th-gen iPod touch.

Searching in both the stock and Nokia Map apps doesn't seem to do any intelligent keyword parsing/correction as even the web version of Bing Maps does, push notifications tend to be unreliable compared to iOS and Android, live tiles simply don't consitute a notification center, and abandoning Windows Phone 7 meant that some phones barely got a year of updates.

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Post by jimueller »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115
300bps wrote: post #63

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I went from iOS Google Maps->Apple Maps->iOS Google Maps on my iPhones. The Google Maps worked really well. The HERE Drive+ from Nokia Maps though is fantastic. One nice feature (of many)... it shows you the current speed limit on every road that you're on. It also shows you your current speed and it is dead-on accurate. It can even be set to give an alert if you exceed the speed limit by x MPH. Hands down, the built…

I don't drive, I mean, most people don't drive in my market....and that's where I'm supposed to look for maps on my 920?

HERE is a suite of applications.HERE Maps is ... maps, HERE Drive is the GPS/NAV app, and HERE Transit is public transportation.
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