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Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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My first impression is, does more mpegapixel instantly make the Nokia Lumia 1020 a better phone? If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR. Admittedly, 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor, but based on the hardware specs it seems it's more of a camera than a phone. The other questions is, do people want to every photo to be 20MB+?

The article does a really bad job of explaining what's going on here- the resulting photos won't be 41megapixels. It uses that huge amount as a means to "smooth out" the noise/oddities in the photo, and save it as a more reasonable 5MP or 8MP image.

Presumably the individual pixel size is smaller though? So where's the true advantage here vs having fewer larger pixels which would presumably have less noise anyway.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

If I could get this on an Android phone, I'd probably go for it. I'd really like a camera on my phone which wasn't next to useless.

The problem with phone cameras (mostly) ins't the sensor, it's the glass, or lack there-of.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

If I could get this on an Android phone, I'd probably go for it. I'd really like a camera on my phone which wasn't next to useless.

The upcoming Sony i1 should please many people. It's rumored to have a 1/2.3" sensor - while smaller than the Nokia's sensor, it's still quite large for a phone.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

The camera is definitely the most used app on my phone. I would say it's the same for about 50-70% of my friends.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

Hmm, there was a time when function was occasionally considered over form..

The phone is hardly ruined, it's just a high end handset for people in a particular niche, one I happen to belong to (long gave up carrying real cameras, don't give two heaps about Android/pointless OS wars or "mobile apps" or any of that crap, adore the notion of a reasonably high end camera that requires zero effort to bring with me).

Design is often about trade-offs, and based on the parent comment, you seem to have entirely missed the point of this particular design.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

I am clamoring for that. A smartphone that combines the best of the 808 pureview[1] sensor and the improvements of the Lumia 920 like image stabilization and better dynamic range[2]? Yes please. Also, I'm in Europe so don't need to worry about US contract woes.

[1] http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvhZ-Mq4aQ

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article does a really bad job of explaining what's going on here- the resulting photos won't be 41megapixels. It uses that huge amount as a means to "smooth out" the noise/oddities in the photo, and save it as a more reasonable 5MP or 8MP image.

Presumably the individual pixel size is smaller though? So where's the true advantage here vs having fewer larger pixels which would presumably have less noise anyway.

I read an article a while back when they were just testing this tech. It said the camera takes a picture at the full ~40MP res and then algorithmically chooses the best pixels and sizes down the image to a more reasonable 8MP. Apparently this has a huge benefit on low light shooting.

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They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

If I could get this on an Android phone, I'd probably go for it. I'd really like a camera on my phone which wasn't next to useless.

What ties you to Android?

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The whitepaper on an older version of the technology is here. http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/849564/data/2/-/Download1.pdf The Xenon flash eliminates the blur in standard flash. Comparison pictures against the S4 and iPhone 5. http://i.imgur.com/fUe8rLC.png The optical image stabilization is cool, with ball bearings replacing the coils on the Lumia 920. Sample video comparison against the S4(Edit: S3, my bad). http:/…

> Sample video comparison against the S4.

Ahem, S3. I'm sure the 920 will still perform favourably against an S4 in this regard, but still.

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