Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper • Hacker News Board

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by martingordon » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:29 PM UTC

Maakuth wrote: post #4

Even with this kind of device, it is still very doubtful if Nokia is going to get any kind of success with Windows Phone. Their market share drop has been nothing short of catastrophic everywhere but in the US, where they never had significant market share. Even their feature phones have stopped selling as well as they used to. It will be interesting to see if they can get back on track with current strategy or with…

This is a niche device, IMHO, which may be the way to go for Nokia (as long as the software can keep up).

It starts at $299, which is $100 more than the entry price of the iPhone 5 (even though it's the same price as the 32 GB iPhone, you can get an iPhone for cheaper if you wanted to).

It won't necessarily appeal to people for whom iPhone/GS4 quality photos are good enough (and who only share on Instagram anyway) but it definitely takes the place of a point and shoot. It seems much more appealing than the Galaxy Camera or Galaxy S4 Zoom.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by psbp » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:30 PM UTC

Maakuth wrote: post #4

Even with this kind of device, it is still very doubtful if Nokia is going to get any kind of success with Windows Phone. Their market share drop has been nothing short of catastrophic everywhere but in the US, where they never had significant market share. Even their feature phones have stopped selling as well as they used to. It will be interesting to see if they can get back on track with current strategy or with…

This seems more like a halo device than an assumed success.

This certainly makes owning a Lumia more attractive to me even though I'm not interested in WP whatsoever.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by slantyyz » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:31 PM UTC

chenster wrote: post #7

My first impression is, does more mpegapixel instantly make the Nokia Lumia 1020 a better phone? If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR. Admittedly, 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor, but based on the hardware specs it seems it's more of a camera than a phone. The other questions is, do people want to every photo to be 20MB+?

>> If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR

As the saying goes, the best camera is the one you have with you.

The reality, however, is, that your best camera is actually the one you left at home.

>> 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor

This camera is a little more than just the megapixel count. It appears that they use something similar to pixel binning to use those 41 MPs to make better 5MP images.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by ebbv » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:31 PM UTC

They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it?

Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by manojlds » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:32 PM UTC

chenster wrote: post #7

My first impression is, does more mpegapixel instantly make the Nokia Lumia 1020 a better phone? If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR. Admittedly, 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor, but based on the hardware specs it seems it's more of a camera than a phone. The other questions is, do people want to every photo to be 20MB+?

You really need to read the article and research a bit more. It is not just about the megapixel number anymore. The resulting photos can be set to be as small as ones produced by a 5mpx camera. The wow factor is the ability decide what you want in the photo after taking it.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by psbp » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:34 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #2

As someone who takes a lot of photos with my phone, this interests me a lot. Though as someone who has previously used Windows Phone, I'm very skeptical about going back to it. This is the first device that makes me wonder about Nokia's WP-exclusive decision. They didn't go with Android to avoid becoming "yet another" Android manufacturer, and I agree with that sentiment (look at how few are turning a profit). Howeve…

I switch between iOS and Android, but the Lumia phones do seem attractive to me despite WP. They could have really differentiated in the android market, or at least forced Samsung to make some better hardware choices.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by revaaron » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:35 PM UTC

chenster wrote: post #7

My first impression is, does more mpegapixel instantly make the Nokia Lumia 1020 a better phone? If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR. Admittedly, 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor, but based on the hardware specs it seems it's more of a camera than a phone. The other questions is, do people want to every photo to be 20MB+?

It's also worth noting that this and the 38 MP Nokia 808 phone have a 1/1.2" sensor, larger than all but one fixed lens compact camera, including cellphones. The only compact with a larger sensor is the Sony RX100/RX100 II. Not quite DSLR quality, but higher quality than you'll get out of most compacts.

The high MP counts allows you do downsample/pixel bin for higher quality images and also allows room to crop, providing a digital zoom which doesn't suck.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by mc32 » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:36 PM UTC

chenster wrote: post #7

My first impression is, does more mpegapixel instantly make the Nokia Lumia 1020 a better phone? If you truly want to take good photos, use a real camera, like a DSLR. Admittedly, 41-megapixel is quite a wow factor, but based on the hardware specs it seems it's more of a camera than a phone. The other questions is, do people want to every photo to be 20MB+?

I don't think this is supposed to replace DSLRs or Digital Rangefinders. But this will replace the point and shoots and possibly MILCs.

I truly love the quality from my DSLR but it's hulking compared to my MILC (a Sony NEX). For most things the NEX is good enough. If the quality can come close to that of MILCs, then I might just carry this kind of phone for most uses and take the DSLR only for staged shots and the like (non-P&S situations) and forget the MILCs and P&Ses.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by revaaron » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:39 PM UTC

ebbv wrote: post #14

They ruined the design of the old Lumia for the benefit of a better camera. Who's really clamoring for that? And who's willing to pay $299.99 with 2 year contract for it? Nokia really doesn't know what they're doing.

If I could get this on an Android phone, I'd probably go for it. I'd really like a camera on my phone which wasn't next to useless.

Re: Nokia Lumia 1020 packs 41-megapixel camera whopper

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Post by slantyyz » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 4:39 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #5

Maybe this would've had a chance with Android, but with WP8? It's a niche offering within a niche OS market. It's like offering Battlefield 4 for Linux only .

Does the phone OS really matter to the non-hardcore phone user any more?

I don't use much more than the core apps that are available on any of the major mobile OSes, and the differences in the UI between the big four (or more accurately big two and little two) aren't significant enough that I couldn't go from an iPhone to Blackberry to WP without many headaches at all.

The main headache (edit: a minor one at that) for me in switching platforms would be that I have to spend a bit of time retyping in all my passwords to the services that I use.