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Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by ladzoppelin »

venomsnake wrote: post #81
criley2 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people want Microsoft to be "less closed", then they should stop avoiding Microsoft for platforms like Google and Apple, who are whooping Microsoft's ass by being far more closed. Between the anti-open Google+/Play/Hangouts universe and the anti-open iOS iGarden, I'm surprised that it has taken Microsoft this long to catch up to their anti-open competitors.

Openness has nothing to do with abandonment of microsoft. It has all to do with the fact that they could not deliver good mobile device. And still can't. They made errors on every step of the game - allowed carrirs to have saying on the devices, abandoned all lessons learned from PCs and building ecosystems and threw an inferior iOS me too (the UI was better though, the ideology the same)

I absolutely love my Nokia 928 and think WP8 mobile is amazing. Don't really understand what you are talking about here..

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Post by smacktoward »

Zigurd wrote: post #82

All the critical decisions have already been made: Microsoft branded hardware, running Windows, everywhere. No courier. Bring XBOX solidly into the Windows fold. It's all Windows. Why reorg? Who would accept the job of telling Ballmer that, when Nokia goes under, the "devices" part of that story is a fable? On top of that, the press release was apparently written by a student of Vogon poetry.

And why on Earth would you want to bring your entertainment console closer to a brand that says "stuff I use at work because my boss says I have to" to everyone who sees it? That's not marketing, it's the antithesis of marketing. Anti-marketing.

> Mark Penn... will lead with Tami the newly centralized advertising and media functions

Oh. Well that explains that, then.

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by JonFish85 »

What is one good thing that Ballmer has done for MS? He's ridden the momentum left by Gates, and since then..... what? Nothing new & good. If I'm an investor in MS, is he really the best option? Not that Microsoft isn't a good company and does some great work (Microsoft Research labs are amazing, I don't care what people say), but honestly it seems like as a company, Microsoft hasn't really done anything new & better in over a decade. He's kept a steady course with the golden goose(s) of Windows/Office, of course.

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by ethomson »

JOnAgain wrote: post #96

Azure will not catch AWS because it's not a first class division. It's an offering in a broader context. Contrast with Amazon who has an SVP of AWS (and he's considered one of the "more important" SVPs). Any chance I had of considering Azure just evaporated. And there's nothing that screams "ownership" like having a VP's reports "dotted-line" report into someone else, and to have that called out in a company-wide ema…

There's a division called "Cloud" being headed up by Executive VP Satya Nadella that encompasses Azure and the apps that build on top of it (Office 365, visualstudio.com...)

That seems pretty first-class to me.

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by awa »

canistr wrote: post #78

It wasn't immediately clear in Ballmer's statement, but is the Office division moving under the Cloud services group? It's interesting that they are putting their money-making operations (Office + Server&Tools) under Cloud with Satya Nadella instead of moving it over to Application Services under Qi Lu. Which, given the name, you would think Office would move under Applications.

Office is indeed moving under Qi Lu. (Applications and Services group)

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by shmerl »

One thing won't change - they'll still remain complete jerks when it comes to software patents, vendor lock in, closed standards and other junk like that.

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Post by JonFish85 »

stdbrouw wrote: post #90
cs702 wrote: post #88

I almost choked when I read Microsoft's new mission statement: "our strategy will focus on creating a family of devices and services for individuals and businesses that empower people around the globe at home, at work and on the go, for the activities they value most." In other words, Ballmer wants the company to "focus" on being everything to everyone! Not a good sign for the business. -- PS. Compare Ballmer's long,…

Another way of interpreting this would be "Microsoft wants to get out of your way, it wants to be a (ubiquitous) platform so you can focus on what you're actually trying to do rather than on your OS or your device." Doesn't sound that awful to me.

...says the company who brought you the UAC popups :)

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by 300bps »

incision wrote: post #94
knodi wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly think he doesn't realize that he's the problem and people around him won't tell him the truth. Ballmer is a very intimidating guy both in physical size and attitude and is always ready to be combative. This make it very difficult to have a open dialog with him. Him remaining still as the CEO is not his fault its the boards fault they should have made moves to genteelly replace him a long time ago.

>"Ballmer is a very intimidating guy both in physical size and attitude and is always ready to be combative." As larger than average person I'm fascinated/frustrated by the way physical presence affects people. Most troublesome for me have been people who apparently feel intimidated and project it back as something intentional, as I'm trying to intimidate them or have intimidated others into agreement with me.

>Most troublesome for me have been people who apparently feel intimidated and project it back as something intentional, as I'm trying to intimidate them

I am 6'7" tall and weigh 220 pounds. I've also been in IT for about 20 years in a corporate setting. Are you bigger than I am? I ask because I have never had anyone say that I intimidated them nor have I heard of anyone telling me that someone else is intimidated by me. I'm curious as to whether people are intimidated and just aren't telling me.

Re: Microsoft reorganizes

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Post by olauzon »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #108
YuriNiyazov wrote: post #33

http://taffywilliams.blogspot.com/2011/07/write-3-letters-yo... A new CEO was hired to replace an outgoing CEO. The outgoing CEO met with the incoming CEO for an exit interview. During the discussion, the departing CEO stated he had placed 3 very important letters in his drawer just as his predecessor had done for him. He explained that the new CEO would find opening the letters in order most useful when a serious ev…

I have heard this several times. What is the original source ?

Khrushchev is rumored to have left Brezhnev these 2 letters.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/05/25/735217/-Khrushchev-...

The anecdote was cited in the 2000 film Traffic.

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