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The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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How about taking the necessary precautions yourself instead of asking a website to protect you from illegal information?

what precautions should/could he take, other than avoiding HN entirely?

Taking more than the hostname of the link into account; the title maybe.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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As the article points out, the map is different in both as well. One shows CONUS, the other, the whole Earth.

These come from the NSA originally - so it's probably SOP to make slight changes to every page of every document each time it is released to someone, so that they can track the exact source and path of any leaks.

I don't doubt they version things like this, but I do doubt the watermark is easily found. A bit here, a bit there and you can bury a lot of info in a graphic with no one the wiser.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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Good, continue to support the surveillance state with - either your data - and/or your money. Sincerely, your NSA

But I am not giving them useful information, nor am I paying for those services.

You're still supporting them. They do get paid, and you figure into the usage statistics and eyeballs for which they get paid. Like it or not.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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post #167

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How about taking the necessary precautions yourself instead of asking a website to protect you from illegal information?

what precautions should/could he take, other than avoiding HN entirely?

Hiding his IP with Tor would be a good start.

Using separate accounts for reading unsafe links and commenting safe ones can avoid detection based on writing style analysis.

Since Tor exit nodes can be compromised easily and HTTPS is vulnerable to attackers powerful enough to have the private keys of major certificate authorities, the passwords used should not be reused for other services.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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If they've publicly provided similar capabilities to the Indian government, it seems naive to think that list isn't longer. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/telecom/news/government-to-take-over...

Yeah, they might join PRISM any day.

I was going to ask if the Canadian government could do anything about that, but then disillusionment set in.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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Once again, I suggest everyone interested read James Bamford's book Shadow Factory. All these revelations regarding call metadata, PRISM collection (albeit under a different codename at the time), modern fiber taps, and even more are covered. You'll learn about how they shave fiber optic cables in order to intercept traffic and not be detected. You'll find out about the various facilities already reported, along with…

Was expecting to find comment by tptacek explaining how WP's Craig Timberg has no journalistic integrity because "direct access" clearly doesn't mean the NSA gets whatever data it wants by whatever means necessary. Rather, "direct access" can only imply the NSA administers the credentials of each and every server and database existent, which clearly couldn't be true. Maybe he's busy. I'll check back.

I frequently disagree with Thomas (tptacek), but this is unfair.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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> "collection directly from the servers" So either Snowden has incorrect slides, the slides are falsified, or everyone has been lying. Actual evidence of direct access would be better than these slides. I would like someone from Google, Facebook, et al to testify under oath that there is no direct access. Or maybe even the NSA, but we know they share inaccuracies under oath, so maybe that isn't worth so much.

If clapper was outright lying to congress about the data collection... what makes you think getting Zuck under "oath" is going to do any better. After all, he thinks we're all a bunch of "dumb fucks" and it would appear he happily sold all global user data to the USG without even a second thought.

Maybe the creepy illuminati hoodie makes more sense now.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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How about taking the necessary precautions yourself instead of asking a website to protect you from illegal information?

what precautions should/could he take, other than avoiding HN entirely?

If I were him, I'd read titles before I click on them. Or you know, avoid HN entirely.

Or quit.

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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If clapper was outright lying to congress about the data collection... what makes you think getting Zuck under "oath" is going to do any better. After all, he thinks we're all a bunch of "dumb fucks" and it would appear he happily sold all global user data to the USG without even a second thought.

Maybe the creepy illuminati hoodie makes more sense now.

In have to tell you, it warms my skeptic heart to see HN so damn discerning over all this info regarding the true state of the world; HN has really surprised me at how many people here are really paying attention!!

Re: The NSA slide you haven’t seen

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After seeing this article today, I made a post on Facebook to explain to some of my friends that aren't closely following the PRISM story that this is not compatible with the statements released by Mark Zuckerberg, Marissa Mayer, and Larry Page. I'll reproduce some of my post here--I'd link directly, but my Facebook is set to 'private.' Remember when Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook), Marissa Mayer (Yahoo!) and Larry Page (…

> Facebook is set to 'private.'

LOL

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