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NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
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Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know what "ghetto-fabulousness" means but NeoCities is not a revolt against good web design, and it's not a ghetto. I like beautiful web sites. I love the new site design. I think most people will appreciate the new site. I have metrics, so if they don't, I'll know pretty quickly and make the appropriate adjustments. Thank you for your concern though.
Just so everybody knows what we're talking about, this is the screenshot of the new front page design we're working on: https://raw.github.com/kyledrake/neocities-web/master/files/...
The new one looks like a toy, like another one of those hipster websites, ugh. It doesnt work with the idea of a "neocities". Shame if this is implemented, just my 2 cents.
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#63Woo, thanks for the shoutout to Ten Megabyte Manifesto [0] again. 20 megabytes is likely a good thing (and I guess I have to update my manifesto a little bit! though I maintain that you can still build quality stuff in under 10MB of html/css/js), and the promise of a better upload interface is great too. I'm hoping you'll choose to/be able to implement directory support but any improvement in the meantime is great. K…
Directories are not impossible, I'm just not sure how to make the interface for them look good and work well. It's more a UX problem than a coding one. I would love some suggestions/sketches/wireframes to improve the editing dashboard to enable this. Please send me an e-mail if you have any ideas here.
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#64"Domain Names yourname.neocities.org is pretty good, but there's nothing more powerful than owning your own domain. When you own your own domain, you are in control. I want to make it easy for people to add their domain name to NeoCities, and just as easy to move their content elsewhere if they decide they don't want to use us (or want to step to something more powerful like their own server). I will be implementing…
We're not using any subdomains and we never will. Even www just gets redirected to the https://neocities.org version. If I did need to use subdomains for provisioning, I would probably just get another domain exclusively for it. You can run a nameserver without having to attach it to ns1.neocities.org. Enjoy your new site. :-)
"You can run a nameserver without having to attach it to ns1.neocities.org."
Haha. You most certainly can.
Thanks for creating the project, should be fun.
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#65As much as there has been lots of trash talking here about Neocities due to it being 'just' HTML and CSS, I teach high school kids on a semi-regular basis (teaching summer camp right now) and that's the thing they're _most_ jazzed about. I told them all to sign up. They were super pumped.
This is how I got started with programming. Then later I wanted to make some things conditionally displayed, so I learned a scripting language. Then I wanted to write non-spaghetti code, so I learned more about how to structure projects. Etc. I think it's an organic way to learn. It's instantly rewarding.
This is actually the _exact_ same way I started learning to program.
I started with a book on HTML 4.01 and designing a webpage for my sixth grade class. Then I started to learn CSS to make maintenance a bit easier. In seventh grade I learned javascript so that I could have epic-site-battles with the eighth graders. I fondly remember adding different cursor-trail effects every week.
Yes, I did go on to learn PHP (4) -- and free hosts were easy enough to find back then. However dynamic sites is not what _sparked_ my interest. In the very beginning all I _needed_ was geocities. A few static pages and a URL was all I wanted.
I didn't know [or necessarily _want to know_] about subdomains or DNS; at first I didn't even know how to run PHP on my own machine! -- At the time my development cycle was roughly: [write -> FTP -> test -> DOH. Typo. -> write -> FTP -> actual test -> write ->] ...
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We all have to start somewhere -- and a full stack framework would've confused the snot out of me back then. So in a way: I'm thankful for my humble beginnings; and I'm happy to see that neocities will provide that chance for someone else.
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#66One thing I really miss from Geocities is the "structured browsing" that allowed me to find sites from a given subject without using search by word. Also, I miss letting the user decide what is the subject of his/her site and where to put it in the hierarchy. It doesn't fit for some sites, but it did give a sense of "organization" that textual search cannot really match... especially when you don't know what you're l…
There are tags implemented, it's just a matter of me getting them into the browse. I probably should have mentioned this in the blog post.. oops. :-)
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#67I love NeoCities, I'm glad it exists.
Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites
#68Woo, thanks for the shoutout to Ten Megabyte Manifesto [0] again. 20 megabytes is likely a good thing (and I guess I have to update my manifesto a little bit! though I maintain that you can still build quality stuff in under 10MB of html/css/js), and the promise of a better upload interface is great too. I'm hoping you'll choose to/be able to implement directory support but any improvement in the meantime is great. K…
Directories are not impossible, I'm just not sure how to make the interface for them look good and work well. It's more a UX problem than a coding one. I would love some suggestions/sketches/wireframes to improve the editing dashboard to enable this. Please send me an e-mail if you have any ideas here.
Yeah I agree it's not a simple suggestion on my part. I'm by no means an expert on UI/UX and so I'm a bit out of my depth here, but I'm hoping that someone can suggest a design that lends itself well to this. In the meantime, while it's way more complicated than what you're going for, dropbox's upload interface might be worth looking at.
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#69Just some warm words. I love the concept and I think sites like this are very important to get fresh blood actively participating online (to be really online versus having a fixed flow tumblr blog). Keep the barrier of entry as low as possible... thanks a lot! :)
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#70I can't create a page. The captcha doesn't appear and then I get an error when trying to create. I'm using Chrome if that helps.