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Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by steveklabnik »

da02 wrote: post #49
steveklabnik wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is http://codenow.org/ in NYC, by the way. The organization partners with my employer, Jumpstart Lab. This particular iteration is six weeks, all the kids did a weekend with us during the school year. Last week was reviewing very basic programming concepts in Ruby, then this week, we did ruby-processing, and then Sinatra, so the HTML came into play. I think it's because it's a more graphical medium; many of them…

Thanks for the info. I wish I had this back in the 90s. Did they try Ruby Shoes (or whatever replaced it) as a fun side GUI project?

Yes! Their very first lessons were with Hackety Hack, actually. They did some shoes-ing after that.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by ph0rque »

derekp7 wrote: post #41

I just tried signing up for a page, and at the bottom of the signup form is instructions for entering two words. But no two words show up, and there is no place to enter them. Is this due to load issues? Edit: The re-captcha works in Firefox and Internet Explorer, but not in Chrome.

Just came here to say this. I think the issue is with this (seen in the console):

[blocked] The page at https://neocities.org/new ran insecure content from http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/challenge?k=6Lfa6eISAAAA....

[blocked] The page at https://neocities.org/new ran insecure content from http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Lato:400,700,900,400i....

[blocked] The page at https://neocities.org/new ran insecure content from http://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/challenge?k=6Lfa6eISAAAA....

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by Axsuul »

derekp7 wrote: post #41

I just tried signing up for a page, and at the bottom of the signup form is instructions for entering two words. But no two words show up, and there is no place to enter them. Is this due to load issues? Edit: The re-captcha works in Firefox and Internet Explorer, but not in Chrome.

He needs to change the assets URLs to ://

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by bluthru »

kyledrake wrote: post #40
blitzo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't implement this design. Current one is thousand times better. Minimalistic is more natural for this kind of sites.

This discussion is interesting, because I just recently listened to an interview with Tegan And Sara on NPR regarding their new album that almost perfectly emulates this (minimalism vs polish). They wanted to make their music more approachable to a wider audience, and their hardcore fans revolted because they just wanted to hear more of the same stuff. In the end, they were right, and the new album was successful. Mu…

While the current page is lacking design rigor, it has a wonderfully approachable, no-frills, light-weight, utilitarian aspect to it. I don't think the new design represents the NeoCities mission.

Lead by example! By having a minimal home page identity, you're saying "Hey people! It's ok to have a simple web site without knowing how to do all of these visual enhancements. Dive in and get publishing!"

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by fredsted »

ErikAugust wrote: post #46

"Domain Names yourname.neocities.org is pretty good, but there's nothing more powerful than owning your own domain. When you own your own domain, you are in control. I want to make it easy for people to add their domain name to NeoCities, and just as easy to move their content elsewhere if they decide they don't want to use us (or want to step to something more powerful like their own server). I will be implementing…

They should have made users' domains be .users.neocities.org or got a shorter domain solely for users like .neociti.es (which is not registered!)

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by stinky613 »

kyledrake wrote: post #14
gamegod wrote: post #10

Kyle, I died a little inside when I saw the preview of the new "beautiful front page". It's a great webdesign, but I thought the part of the appeal of your site was the ghetto-fabulousness? The redesigned front page makes it look like a Wix competitor. I thought you wanted something that looked plain and boring, but accessible to everyone (like the blog). With a super modern fancy web design, you make the site look l…

I don't know what "ghetto-fabulousness" means but NeoCities is not a revolt against good web design, and it's not a ghetto. I like beautiful web sites. I love the new site design. I think most people will appreciate the new site. I have metrics, so if they don't, I'll know pretty quickly and make the appropriate adjustments. Thank you for your concern though.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghetto+fabulo...

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by schrodingersCat »

kyledrake wrote: post #40
blitzo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't implement this design. Current one is thousand times better. Minimalistic is more natural for this kind of sites.

This discussion is interesting, because I just recently listened to an interview with Tegan And Sara on NPR regarding their new album that almost perfectly emulates this (minimalism vs polish). They wanted to make their music more approachable to a wider audience, and their hardcore fans revolted because they just wanted to hear more of the same stuff. In the end, they were right, and the new album was successful. Mu…

First and foremost, like many others have said, I am rooting for you. I am glad that your site has been a success so far and hope you are able to take it in a new direction. As far as the new design is concerned, its completely within your right to keep it as is. That being said, here are my thoughts:

Likes: - I like your avatar and banner at the top of the page.

- your choice of colors and fonts is nice and feels cohesive.

- the lug for the "Learn to Code" section is a nice touch.

- Prominent placement of the "Get started now" box is very eye-catching.

Dislikes / suggestions: - The overall layout feels cramped. It seems like you are trying to fit a lot of content on a single page. This is why the new design feels so different from your original site.

- Fewer number of featured sites (with the option to scroll through more) might be more visually pleasing.

- I notice that most "generally accessible" sites (read: tumblr, twitter, etc.) have the ability for current users to type their credentials and sign in without leaving the page. It seems like this would require and extra click on your layout.

Best of luck to you. I cannot wait to see neocities mature.

Re: NeoCities can now handle two million web sites

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Post by kyledrake »

ErikAugust wrote: post #46

"Domain Names yourname.neocities.org is pretty good, but there's nothing more powerful than owning your own domain. When you own your own domain, you are in control. I want to make it easy for people to add their domain name to NeoCities, and just as easy to move their content elsewhere if they decide they don't want to use us (or want to step to something more powerful like their own server). I will be implementing…

We're not using any subdomains and we never will. Even www just gets redirected to the https://neocities.org version.

If I did need to use subdomains for provisioning, I would probably just get another domain exclusively for it. You can run a nameserver without having to attach it to ns1.neocities.org. Enjoy your new site. :-)

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