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Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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What terrorists? Did you read the article? "Today, the use of this sort of force is in too many jurisdictions the first option for serving search warrants instead of the last. SWAT teams today are used to break up poker games and massage parlors, for immigration enforcement, even to perform regulatory inspections."

Sarcasm.

In ASCII. Totally works.

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

#12

FYI Two days ago there was a very extensive discussion on a Salon article which was an excerpt of this book: “Why did you shoot me? I was reading a book” (salon.com) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6001843

Thanks, I didn't connect the dots here (I had read the Salon article.)

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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post #3

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You’re More Likely to be Killed by a Toddler than a Terrorist. ( http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/youre-more-likely-to-... )

From the article: "–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist"... Wow, so we need a war against... The police? If we follow todays logic?

You misunderstand his point: what we really need is a war on toddlers.

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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Simple, do you see the limits to preventive actions they can take in most cities? Have you read how "rights" activist are going to strip NYC cops from doing just that which has resulted in an incredible drop in murders and similar crimes? We got there because we stopped police from policing and instead forced them to respond to situations left to build until they explode. We got there by telling them, no you can't lo…

I'm not sure of what you're trying to say here. Is it OK for the police to harass people because they're black, or sport a beard, or wear the wrong T-shirt? That's what you call "preventive policing"?

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist"... Wow, so we need a war against... The police? If we follow todays logic?

You misunderstand his point: what we really need is a war on toddlers.

Toddlers are assholes anyways. I really support this endeavor.

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: "–You are 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist"... Wow, so we need a war against... The police? If we follow todays logic?

You misunderstand his point: what we really need is a war on toddlers.

Enough babying them--it is time to stop letting their infantile behavior and juvenile antics hurt our civilization. We can't continue to let minor offenses slide.

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

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"But whether it's with the ubiquity of these SWAT raids, stop-and-frisk, or the default geared-up, Robocop response to political protest, the relationship between police and the public on the whole is growing increasingly antagonistic -- and oddly, this comes during a period when both crime and on-duty police deaths are at historic lows." Author seems to completely miss the possibility that this is causal. Edit: Just…

Or maybe the author doesn't want to pull something completely out his ass? Isn't this what we criticize journalists for? Especially in social sciences reporting?

There has been a lot of spilled ink regarding why big city crime has been going down with lots of decent theories (abortion access, gentrification, easier access to higher education, smarter policing, larger prison population, etc) and I've never really heard that heavy handed SWAT tactics account for this.

Re: Too Many Cops Are Told They’re Soldiers Fighting a War. How Did We Get Here?

#20
During the 2011 protests in Russia, some people suggested that the government benefits from bad relations between the public and the police, because the government is afraid that the police will side with the public during mass protests. Though I guess that problem is much less severe in the US.
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