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Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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the human condition?

You will likely see Gates, Stallman, Torvalds, Lessig, Knuth, Norman, Minsky, Alan Kay, Abelson, Rivest, Sussman, [...] die in your lifetime. Sure, Turing, Church, Curry and others have already died, but their numbers are low compared to the ones that have not yet (and some of the older users here might actually have been alive at the time of their passing). If you were in a field such as chemistry/philosophy/biology…

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Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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The sad truth is that while bicycles should be respected as vehicles, they are given lip service at best in driver education and there is little attempt made at going after motorists who drive aggressively around them. As a result, you put yourself at great risk of life and limb when you ride on a road like this one: http://www.mapquest.com/?version=1.0&hk=6-LvU0mhA3 (Hillandale Rd, Durham, NC) I accomplish all of my…

Which is why more people should ride. The more cyclists there are on the road the safer we all are.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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When will we stop tolerating the flagrant waste of life that occurs every day as a result of our addiction and worship of the automobile?

When we can find a viable, safer alternative. The automobile has been a staple of growth of modern society since it's invention. There's no other current form of transportation that can be a drop in fit. But in reality, no matter the form of transportation, there will be deaths involved, be it accidental or not. It's a fact of life. Sad, but inevitable.

> When we can find a viable, safer alternative. The automobile has been a staple of growth of modern society since it's invention.

This is true in areas where car manufacturers bought up all of the light rail and ripped it out. GM was convicted in the 50s and paid a $1 fine for anti-trust behavior. The US gov't has spent hundreds of billions of dollars on roads and highways, so that might be why it looks so viable.

*typo

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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Maybe the answer is self driving cars that via sensors are less likely to make these types of errors.

Exactly! Punishing people after accidents, however much at fault they may be, is far less important or useful than preventing them in the first place.

I wish more people would invest more energy into prevention than catching the bad guy after the fact.

Cameras are a great CYA, but they are not going to prevent crime & accidents from happening.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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This is terrible, but I wonder if there's a technical way we can provide a black box for bicyclists so that these sorts of injustices don't go unpunished. RIP :(.

I commute often by bicycle (and motorcycle) and wear a gopro (camera) on the helmets. Hopefully someone never needs to watch the footage, but it makes me feel better.

It does not stop the rage-passers.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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The sad truth is that while bicycles should be respected as vehicles, they are given lip service at best in driver education and there is little attempt made at going after motorists who drive aggressively around them. As a result, you put yourself at great risk of life and limb when you ride on a road like this one: http://www.mapquest.com/?version=1.0&hk=6-LvU0mhA3 (Hillandale Rd, Durham, NC) I accomplish all of my…

I only ride my bike on dedicated bike lanes (by "dedicated" I mean those blocked from the main road) and bike paths. Everywhere else, I ride on the sidewalk. Fortunately, most sidewalks where I live are sparsely populated, and I make sure to slow down to walking speed or dismount completely when going through areas with lots of pedestrians.

Someone told me I could get cited for riding my bike on a sidewalk. Fuck that shit. I'd rather pay $50 than get hit by a car.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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This is terrible, but I wonder if there's a technical way we can provide a black box for bicyclists so that these sorts of injustices don't go unpunished. RIP :(.

Maybe the answer is self driving cars that via sensors are less likely to make these types of errors.

continued human operation of commuter motor vehicles is a bug not a feature

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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post #15

This is terrible, but I wonder if there's a technical way we can provide a black box for bicyclists so that these sorts of injustices don't go unpunished. RIP :(.

A camera mounted on the bike/helmet is the best solution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqSp4XZX0CU

how about better driver education? you say, camera? what if your govt proposes a camera at every corner as a solution? isn't that a good solution? a camera mounted on your bike/helmet might capture who ran you over. what we need is to prevent you from being run over in the first place. prevention is better than cure thus better driver education.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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The sad truth is that while bicycles should be respected as vehicles, they are given lip service at best in driver education and there is little attempt made at going after motorists who drive aggressively around them. As a result, you put yourself at great risk of life and limb when you ride on a road like this one: http://www.mapquest.com/?version=1.0&hk=6-LvU0mhA3 (Hillandale Rd, Durham, NC) I accomplish all of my…

Which is why more people should ride. The more cyclists there are on the road the safer we all are.

I'm not sure if your logic holds up to critical scrutiny. To me, more bikes would simply mean a greater potential for accidents.

What needs to be fixed is driver education, especially the driver tests.

Re: Seth Vidal, creator of yum, killed in hit and run accident

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post #49

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I'm fairly certain that the US was large and spread out well before cars were invented.

On a large scale, yes. But urban sprawl is directly caused by the automobile. The design of US cities is just godawful from any perspective (environmental, social, business efficiency, crime rates, ghettoization, etc), compared to those in Europe. I'm fairly certain that Manhattan and San Francisco are so vibrant and livable largely because they're constrained by geographical barriers.

It's a bit of a stretch to refer to most large European cities being "designed", at least recently, isn't it?
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