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Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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I'm curious - does it automatically get the latest version of FF when it's released for desktop/Android? And does it support all of the functionality that comes with it? i.e. will it now have the asm.js optimisations and similar?

It's not running Firefox per se, it's running a OS called Boot 2 Gecko[0] and will probably not be updated simultaneously as desktop/mobile Firefox. Yeah, it supports almost the same functionality with some additional things (like WebAPI[1], APIs for hardware access)

[0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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This is my lucky day to be in Spain! Have been following the project from the B2G[0] days and will order a phone ASAP. If you are in Spain, you can order the phone from Telefonica[1] and if you are like me and want to talk with other Firefox OS nerds, there is a Google Plus community for that[2]

Also, don't forget that if you want to develop for Firefox OS but don't yet have a device for it, you can run the superfast Firefox OS Simulator[3], super simple and currently the best emulator for a mobile OS.

[0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G

[1] http://www.movistar.es/particulares/movil/moviles-tarjeta/fi...

[2] https://plus.google.com/communities/100988731864612801878

[3] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Firefox_OS_Si...

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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make them available already for developers world wide! geeksphone is always sold out

Well, it's easier to make software available for developers world wide than to make hardware available for developers world wide.

Anybody interested in porting FirefoxOS to every single Android device on Earth? :)

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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I'm curious - does it automatically get the latest version of FF when it's released for desktop/Android? And does it support all of the functionality that comes with it? i.e. will it now have the asm.js optimisations and similar?

I'm not sure about asm.js/OdinMonkey. I believe that FirefoxOS 1.0 does not have it, but that FirefoxOS 1.1 (which should be available as a free over-the-air update) has it.

More generally, FirefoxOS does not automatically get the latest version of Gecko, because the process for mobile operating systems is more complex. The operating system must first pass certification by (if I recall) both the constructors and the operators. This operation is both long and costly, so it is probably impossible to follow the Firefox desktop/Android 6 week release cycle for the time being.

However, if I had to guess, I would assume that FirefoxOS will receive about one big update every few months, with all the new features and optimizations of Gecko. I know, for instance, that some of the optimizations I have added recently to Gecko have missed the release train for the next version of FirefoxOS (I believe that's still 1.1) but should be part of the release after that.

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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post #13

I'm curious - does it automatically get the latest version of FF when it's released for desktop/Android? And does it support all of the functionality that comes with it? i.e. will it now have the asm.js optimisations and similar?

It's not running Firefox per se, it's running a OS called Boot 2 Gecko[0] and will probably not be updated simultaneously as desktop/mobile Firefox. Yeah, it supports almost the same functionality with some additional things (like WebAPI[1], APIs for hardware access) [0] https://wiki.mozilla.org/B2G [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/WebAPI

Yes, but Gecko is the engine of Firefox, so I was curious whether the version of Gecko (and of the JS engines) are kept in sync.

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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post #12

Huge kudos to Mozilla for branching out and trying something different. I hope it works out for them: we could really do with an open competitor to the Google/Apple duopoly.

Firefox OS will need to successfully compete against BlackBerry OS, Windows Mobile, bada and the other quite obscure mobile OSes long before it'll have a chance to even begin competing against Android or iOS. Many of these alternative systems have actually shipped on numerous devices, and have actual users.

And how exactly is it "different"? Firefox OS is really just a limited subset of what we already have available (and have had for years, in some cases) under these various existing systems. We can already quite successfully run HTML5/CSS/JavaScript-based apps on Android, iOS, and BlackBerry OS for instance. And this is ignoring Firefox OS's inflexibility when it comes to using languages other than JavaScript (sorry, Asm.js and Emscripten are hacks, at best), or writing native applications.

It's hard to see how it'll compete on vague notions of "openness" that most consumers really could not care any less about, while failing to compete on things that consumers do care about, like functionality and experience. It can't even really compete on price, given the existence of Android.

Re: Firefox OS devices officially released

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post #16

make them available already for developers world wide! geeksphone is always sold out

Well, it's easier to make software available for developers world wide than to make hardware available for developers world wide. Anybody interested in porting FirefoxOS to every single Android device on Earth? :)

You can always do it yourself!

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/...

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/...

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