Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO • Hacker News Board

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by jeremymcanally » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:38 PM UTC

Osmium wrote: post #62

bryanh wrote: post #29

High quality close up photo from https://path.com/p/1lwrZb : https://pathakacdn-a.akamaihd.net/photos2/f36a5729-6db7-40db...

I can't imagine the confusion that must have gone on when that happened, maybe it's shock or maybe people just underestimate the severity of their situation but correct me if I'm wrong... are there people in that photo actually carrying their bags off the plane? I can't quite comprehend that.

They probably instructed you to take their carry ons. Otherwise, given it was a flight from Korea, they may not speak English and have no clue what they were being told to do.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by robbiemitchell » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:38 PM UTC

jcdavis wrote: post #55

ATC audio from the crash http://wandr.me/Audio/AAR214-KSFO-Crash.mp3

Amazing. Wish I understood what's happening in each exchange.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by furyofantares » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:38 PM UTC

InclinedPlane wrote: post #28

lesslaw wrote: post #8

Why is this HN relevant ?

How about: because the 777 is one of the newest airliners in production and SFO is one of the busiest airports in the US, so if this is due to an engineering defect it's both extremely concerning and relevant to general HN discussion, even aside from the immediate personal safety aspect. Just as the 787 battery problems were.

I don't think anyone would argue that an article about an engineering defect wouldn't be relevant, but OP is not that.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by Patrick_Devine » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:38 PM UTC

The flight path into SFO goes right over my house in Palo Alto. It's funny, I was wondering why there had been no planes flying overhead today, but hadn't realized what had happened until I saw this post.

I hope everyone is OK.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by justin66 » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:38 PM UTC

starpilot wrote: post #86

If it turns out it was a mechanical failure, and not pilot error we should credit them for a successful crash landing.

Is there a pilot error that can account for the tail ripping off that plane?

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by jasonmccay » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:40 PM UTC

_wp3r wrote: post #61

bsg75 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing changes in information [1] flow. HN becomes a better source than all major networks combined. [1] Information as contrasted to conjecture and dramatization.

KTVU is providing amazingly sensationalist coverage. I guess I do not watch enough video news to be use to seeing it. Just wild assumptions and implied details.

KTVU is borderline comical ... they were making wild assumptions that, even using basic logic and common sense, could be dismissed. I was really surprised how unknowledgeable they seemed.

Much better to just report what you know and not try to make up information (even just claiming it as conjecture). Online sources were far more valuable.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by starpilot » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:42 PM UTC

justin66 wrote: post #95

starpilot wrote: post #86

If it turns out it was a mechanical failure, and not pilot error we should credit them for a successful crash landing.

Is there a pilot error that can account for the tail ripping off that plane?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailstrike

Eyewitness, standard caveats apply:

> “The tail was too low. Instead of coming in flat it was coming in at a 45-degree angle, with the tail far too low,”

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/06/19323541-boeing-7...

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by untog » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:52 PM UTC

sethbannon wrote: post #15

Someone who was on the plane says everyone seems OK: https://path.com/p/1lwrZb

Look as though there are very variable reports right now- some saying two dead, at the very least a good number are injured.

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by frozenport » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:54 PM UTC

Is this a case for or against automatic airplane control?

Re: Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashes at SFO

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Post by justin66 » Sat, Jul 06, 2013, 8:54 PM UTC

starpilot wrote: post #97

justin66 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a pilot error that can account for the tail ripping off that plane?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailstrike Eyewitness, standard caveats apply: > “The tail was too low. Instead of coming in flat it was coming in at a 45-degree angle, with the tail far too low,” http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/06/19323541-boeing-7...

Thank you.

No kidding about witness reports. At least one news report has claimed that the plane flipped over, and people are just throwing the word "cartwheel" around.