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Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by huherto »

bruceb wrote: post #57
varjag wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

STDs are hardly propaganda, and promiscuity does indeed increase the risk. Besides she was clearly a troubled youth, with sexual abuse home and her further abusive relationships conveyed early in the movie.

Major Dan was getting it on with prostitutes but he doesn't get aids. It also showed the anti war guy just happens to be a women beater...

Just like in real life. Some people got it, some people didn't.

I also thought it was great how they handle the subject in that movie. And what about Forest who loves Jenny regardless anything on her past?

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by School-Cotton »

run4yourlives wrote: post #7

An article like this makes you wonder how many different diseases (answer - over 200) get lumped together under the large "cancer" umbrella. One wonders if we are doing ourselves a disservice maintaining a term more inline with shared symptoms instead of separating the diseases into shared causes. At any rate I'm digressing, but cancer is a fascinating (while horrible) concept that exists in our reality. When you thi…

Well, Karposi's Sarcoma is a cancer. They weren't wrong about that.

It just happens to be a cancer that is overwhelmingly more common in people suffering from HIV than in the general population.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by bruceb »

pg wrote: post #68
bruceb wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Major Dan was getting it on with prostitutes but he doesn't get aids. It also showed the anti war guy just happens to be a women beater...

This thread has descended into self-parody. I encourage you guys to go do something else.

Yeah I didn't want to get into it but sometimes some BS bugs you and its hard not to comment. I try to stick to non political on HN.

Kinda rewarding "bad" behavior though right? this is the first time PG has sorta commented on any comment I have made.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by gdonelli »

enraged_camel wrote: post #6

In the movie Forrest Gump, there is a scene taking place in the late 70s or early 80s where Jenny is explaining to Forrest that she is ill and the doctors do not know what it is. She dies a few years later. It is never stated explicitly, but the idea is that she was suffering from AIDS, which she contacted during her years as a promiscuous drug addict groupie. In my opinion it is one of the most powerful scenes in th…

wooou I didnt make the connection... it is one of my favorite movies

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by Jeremy1026 »

scrumper wrote: post #63
yummyfajitas wrote: post #61

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Founding the Bubba Gump Shrimp Co is not a historical reference. The restaurant was founded in 1996 as a marketing tie in to the movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp_Company

Ah, thanks. Got another example I can swap it for? Haven't seen the film in at least a decade.

He was named about his relative named Forrest, who was part of a group that wore bed sheets and rode around on horses that also wore bed sheets. - KKK reference.

Forrest was at the U. of Ark. during the time of integration, and picked up the book dropped by one of the Little Rock 9.

He coined the term 'Shit Happens' and the smiley face t-shirt.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by parenthesis »

pqqqqq wrote: post #13
tptacek wrote: post #5

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Curious: if we call t_0 1981, the Kaposi's Sarcoma article, and t_x 1996, the advent of HAART, and consider (t_x - t_0) "the AIDS epidemic" --- ignoring the ongoing epidemics in Sub-Saharan African and India, which are enormous problems but somewhat orthogonal to the problem described by your book --- what comparably lethal disease in human history was more effectively addressed by the medical establishment? How can…

Just to give you an idea, the FDA didn't start screening its blood until 1985 after several documented cases where patients received AIDS from blood transfusions. http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/aids-timeline/ Reagan has been criticized for his complete non-response to AIDS as well. He mentioned it in passing in 1985, and didn't actually address the issue until 1987. Since AIDS mostly affected homosexual…

Note that HIV/AIDS wasn't altogether distant from Reagan personally: the Reagan's were friends of Rock Hudson, who died of AIDS-related complications in 1985.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by [deleted] »

bruceb wrote: post #57
varjag wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

STDs are hardly propaganda, and promiscuity does indeed increase the risk. Besides she was clearly a troubled youth, with sexual abuse home and her further abusive relationships conveyed early in the movie.

Major Dan was getting it on with prostitutes but he doesn't get aids. It also showed the anti war guy just happens to be a women beater...

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Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by asveikau »

scrumper wrote: post #63
yummyfajitas wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Founding the Bubba Gump Shrimp Co is not a historical reference. The restaurant was founded in 1996 as a marketing tie in to the movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp_Company

Ah, thanks. Got another example I can swap it for? Haven't seen the film in at least a decade.

He taught Elvis to dance.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by newnewnew »

bruceb wrote: post #38
enraged_camel wrote: post #6

In the movie Forrest Gump, there is a scene taking place in the late 70s or early 80s where Jenny is explaining to Forrest that she is ill and the doctors do not know what it is. She dies a few years later. It is never stated explicitly, but the idea is that she was suffering from AIDS, which she contacted during her years as a promiscuous drug addict groupie. In my opinion it is one of the most powerful scenes in th…

I thought it was pretty obvious. Was also a tad annoying as because she was liberal and anti war and was a sexually liberated woman...well then she is a whore that will get her payback by being given aids. I thought it was a good movie but it had touches of right-wing propaganda.

What's really going to blow your mind is the statistics on who gets HIV infections in the United States today:

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/basics/ataglance.html

What an un-PC virus. Doesn't it know we're living in 2013? I'm told reality is supposed to have a liberal bias now.

Re: Rare Cancer Seen In 41 Homosexuals (1981)

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Post by rquantz »

encoderer wrote: post #54
pqqqqq wrote: post #41

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What about SARS back in 2003? China first observed SARS in Nov 2002 but didn't report it until February 2003. The responsible virus was identified by April 2003 and the whole disease contained by July. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndro... I'm not an epidemiologist so I can't compare the relative complexity of the SARS virus to HIV. But I'm skeptical that HIV presented a massive and insurmou…

Of course, SARS was 30 years later... To get some perspective, 1981 was as close to 2013 as it was to 1949. Edit: Yes, I meant 2013, thanks. Point being: I remember the mid (not early) 80's and it SEEMS so recent and modern but it's as far removed from our life today as 1950's life was then.

I think you mean 2013.
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