It's not immediately obvious but they are an off-shoot of FS Data -- a fairly well-known (and old) Swedish hosting provider. It is in other words unlikely to be a "fly-by operation" in a niche where new companies pop-up very frequently.
New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
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Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks! Glad to hear you like the offer. Unfortunately we don't have a English or German site yet. But we do plan to launch our English site later this year. I hope we'll see you then! :) /Jonathan Gabor, Product Manager at Cloud Royale
Why put this on HN if there is no English version?
I'd assume because Hacker News is pretty geographically diverse.
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
What difference does it make if the user is outside Sweden?
You have to deal with taxation. As a minimum, for EU customers they'd have to extend the same VAT arrangements they give to Swedes, whereas any non-EU customer would get different tariffs, and you have to make sure it's all accounted properly. Then they'd have to look at other laws and regulations for cross-border businesses, and would likely have to pay higher premiums for their insurance against lawsuits for hostin…
From what I understand, if the server is in Sweden the laws of Sweden are followed.
For the EU taxation there is no tax if the customer is outside EU, this can be resolved by CC address.
How are the payments going through now, is it not CC?
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks! Glad to hear you like the offer. Unfortunately we don't have a English or German site yet. But we do plan to launch our English site later this year. I hope we'll see you then! :) /Jonathan Gabor, Product Manager at Cloud Royale
Out of curiosity, what does the "tim" in "0.18 kr/tim" translate to in English? I'm just trying to calculate how much it amounts to per month.
It is price per hour in SEK. 0.18 SEK per hour is 129 SEK per month, which translates to ~ $19 per month in USD with the current exchange rate (according to '129,6 sek to usd' in Google)
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks! Glad to hear you like the offer. Unfortunately we don't have a English or German site yet. But we do plan to launch our English site later this year. I hope we'll see you then! :) /Jonathan Gabor, Product Manager at Cloud Royale
This is great. Do you have a waiting list so that we get informed when you start allowing international registrations?
We just put one up! You can find it here: https://cloudroyale.se/sorry.php
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#26Do you support NetBSD?
Unfortunately no. But if the demand is there, we will definitely consider it. And I know it's not exactly the same, but FreeBSD is on it's way…
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#27Is this newsworthy? More cheap VPS providers here if you're interested: http://www.lowendbox.com/
Re: New cheap VPS provider, based in Sweden
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to deal with taxation. As a minimum, for EU customers they'd have to extend the same VAT arrangements they give to Swedes, whereas any non-EU customer would get different tariffs, and you have to make sure it's all accounted properly. Then they'd have to look at other laws and regulations for cross-border businesses, and would likely have to pay higher premiums for their insurance against lawsuits for hostin…
From what I understand, if the server is in Sweden the laws of Sweden are followed. For the EU taxation there is no tax if the customer is outside EU, this can be resolved by CC address. How are the payments going through now, is it not CC?
>For the EU taxation there is no tax if the customer is outside EU, this can be resolved by CC address.
Yeah, what I'm saying is that their payment processor must then understand three different categories of customers (Swedish, EU, non-EU). You'd be surprised how many small operations struggle to just put in place a decent payment/accounting platform ("It's just a few sums, I'll code it in an afternoon, no need to buy $expensiveButComprehensiveAccountingSoftware !"...). And of course, currency conversion between Kroner and €, £, $...
You'd also be surprised by how many regulations we have in Europe covering money transfers -- internal credit cards, external credit cards (yes, often they're different things), debit cards, prepaid cards, all regulated by laws that vary State by State, and all handled by banks through byzantine merchant contracts. I'm not 100% familiar with the Swedish system, but I do see the difficulties in handling foreign payments.