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Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
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Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#12>This is a reference to the President's years-long struggle against preventative injunctions put in place by Argentine courts against her efforts to break up the big Argentine media trusts that are her strongest local political enemies. The preventative injunction are in place to put the measures on hold while the court decides if the made-to-order laws she comes up with twice a week are constitutional or not. For th…
...as you can see, Argentine politics are somewhat polarized.
As a political satirist has said about argentinian politics:
"You can neither explain it or understand it, you just endure it." — Enrique Pinti, Pingo Argentino
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#13This article should be flagged for containing Argentinean government propaganda.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#14Regarding the wording used, "buddy" is an affective way of referring to one another between left-oriented political movements here. Extremely common in peronism but also used in several other countries from South America. > He has the advantage of thousands of years of civilization over me. [Not sure I understood that sentence correctly.] It refers to the bolivian/peruvian aboriginal culture from which Morales' is co…
Thanks! I thought that might be what she meant, but I wasn't sure. I'm not really sure if "buddy" is a good translation of "compañer@", but it seemed about right. "Comrade" might be an equally good translation if you wanted to prejudice people in the US against her.
"Buddy" sounds really silly. "Comrade" is closer, but at least in Portuguese that would be "camarada", which carries a rather old-style socialist nuance, not "companheiro".
"Fellow", "brother" or even "mate" sound better in this context.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#15This article should be flagged for containing Argentinean government propaganda.
Welcome to the new HN.
The rate of political stories after datagate broke has skyrocketed, and I don't think the genie will go quietly back in the bottle.
You can downvote me all you want: I have a shitload of this useless karma stuff that I built up on the old HN.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#16For people who don't know about Argentinian politics it's important to emphasize that Cristina Fernandez has her own NSA project: http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfroma...
Not only that, Cristina's Government anticipates Obama using the local IRS against the opposition and individuals speaking against the government in the press.
Finally... a few days ago Assange said: "Argentina has most aggressive surveillance system in Latin America" http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/29/311375/assange-argen...
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#17Did I get it right in the part where she's talking about "thousands of years of civilization"?
Yes, she is definitely playing with the fact that Evo is acting very calmly and being polite with her despite the situation, and at the same time making a reference to his aymaran descent. Cristina is not known for being frugal in speech nor calm when in adverse situations.
I have spent a lot of time in Argentina. Argentinian people are very into being cute and intimate, even with people they don't know that well. There is a refreshing lack of excessive seriousness in that culture. If you know Spanish and have seen Kirschner speak she almost comes off as a goofball the way she cracks jokes and makes "cute" references to things, but it's really just a reflection of Argentine culture more than anything else.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#18>This is a reference to the President's years-long struggle against preventative injunctions put in place by Argentine courts against her efforts to break up the big Argentine media trusts that are her strongest local political enemies. The preventative injunction are in place to put the measures on hold while the court decides if the made-to-order laws she comes up with twice a week are constitutional or not. For th…
>The preventative injunction are in place to put the measures on hold while the court decides if the made-to-order laws she comes up with twice a week are constitutional or not.
We had a similar case in my country (a politician trying to break large media empires). Nothing worse than media conglomerates belonging to powerful corporations. They control politics AND public perception -- and the use them to funnel resources, contracts and deals in their favour.
Thing Google or Facebook is "the big brother"? Well, imagine those also having several large banks, Apple, newspapers, internet news outlets and several TV channels on their disposal. Well, it seems they have some leverage with the courts in Argentina too.
>For those unfamiliar with Argentinian politics: don't be too impressed with Mrs Kirchner. This Us vs Them is her bread and butter and a perfect opportunity for her to leverage for some cheap points.
Well, if you are in an Latin American country, as history has shown, it's mostly "us vs them". The name "banana republic" did not came about because there weren't enough foreign interests.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#19Did I get it right in the part where she's talking about "thousands of years of civilization"?
Yes. It's because of his being a leader of such a country with an old heritage (and of such origin) -- it's a reference to the (supposed) wisdom and patience that comes with that.
Re: Argentinian President Cristina Fernandez's tweets translation from last night
#20This article should be flagged for containing Argentinean government propaganda.
Whereas the tons of articles of US propaganda are OK, right? Including stuff that is said "matter of factly" but are blatant BS.
If you think it has "argentinian government propaganda" point to it.
Not to the obvious fact (that it was written by the argentinian president).
Specifics. What is propaganda in it, what is bad about it, etc.
Even more appreciated would be n extra line or two, of why "argentinean government propaganda", even if it DID exist in the article, would be of any concern to us (as if Argentina is some powerful country that messes up with our own or something).