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Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by nknighthb »

icelancer wrote: post #30
josh2600 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have the choice to vote. The union voted to strike. Not everyone voted for it, but enough did to initiate the strike. It's usually a fairly unanimous thing. Source: once upon a time, long, long ago, I was on the executive board of a union that may or may not have voted to strike.

But if the vote to strike is going to pass easily, then surely you don't want to be an outcast and vote against it, right? Retaliatory actions from your fellow union members has to be common.

The ballots are secret.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/BART-unions-rank-and-f...

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by hallp »

dantheman wrote: post #25
nknighthb wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I support public employees, public employee unions, and the right of those employees/unions to strike. I also do not believe most of these salaries and other compensation are outrageous. But I also support complete transparency in government. Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them. I know this will sometimes have negative consequences for the employees, but this is a…

Why would you support public sector unions? They face a very different dynamic than ones faced in the private sector. Here's a good write up: http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/432...

It's a little humorous that they are talking about unions disrupting the political system when corporations spend infinitely more money on lobbying government.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by tater »

nknighthb wrote: post #28
dantheman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you support public sector unions? They face a very different dynamic than ones faced in the private sector. Here's a good write up: http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/432...

The parts of that article I don't believe are factually incorrect are parts I fundamentally disagree with. Trying to convince me public sector unions are bad by linking me to a conservative think tank rattling off a list of things public employees fight for/against is a bad idea. I fight for/against the exact same things . So the answer to your question is, I'm a bleeding heart pinko commie bastard, that's why. Have…

Thats the strategy, divide and conquer, make the private sector hate the public sector, make the nonunion workers hate the union workers, etc. As soon as they have enough haters to form a critical mass, the hated group gets shit on and they repeat the process with the next group.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

#36

Post by derleth »

hallp wrote: post #32
dantheman wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you support public sector unions? They face a very different dynamic than ones faced in the private sector. Here's a good write up: http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/432...

It's a little humorous that they are talking about unions disrupting the political system when corporations spend infinitely more money on lobbying government.

Unions are corporations, too.

If unions protect workers from management, who protects workers from unions?

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

#37

Post by mariusz331 »

ajays wrote: post #29
mariusz331 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea I just got it from there. I thought it would be useful to some people in CSV format.

Thanks! I was thinking of asking the reporters for the data. Though there's an error in the data. Starting at row #1001 ("Caldwell"), the "base" column seems to have disappeared.

Thanks! Fixed!

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by tome »

nknighthb wrote: post #23
flexie wrote: post #16

This is just mean. Why don't you put your own name and salary up there for us to see, mariusz331? Whether your employer is the government or a private entity and whether or not you participate in a strike you don't deserve to have your financial data exposed.

I support public employees, public employee unions, and the right of those employees/unions to strike. I also do not believe most of these salaries and other compensation are outrageous. But I also support complete transparency in government. Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them. I know this will sometimes have negative consequences for the employees, but this is a…

> Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them.

Although I support the general sentiment I don't think this is clear cut. Should shareholders have the right to know the salaries of the employees at the companies they invest in?

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by casiotone »

derleth wrote: post #36
hallp wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little humorous that they are talking about unions disrupting the political system when corporations spend infinitely more money on lobbying government.

Unions are corporations, too. If unions protect workers from management, who protects workers from unions?

This is fucking absurd. Unions are unions OF WORKERS. A unions political power comes from the combined power of its members, who are citizens of the state and can thus be considered an accurate reflection of the citizens wishes. A corporation's political power comes from the top, and does not reflect anyone's wishes but the CEO.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Post by zobzu »

spamizbad wrote: post #12

Wow, some of these public servants make as much money as a 19 year old college dropout in Silicon Valley.

according to this table, most managers make more than an average sr engineer actually when you count the bonuses...

in fact, a police officer makes as much as i do, but he has more bonuses than i do, for example. I find that pretty high.

Or are we all getting $400K a year w/ bonus and I didn't get the memo?

Its only the lower end of the chain that gets shitty salaries at bart as well

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