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Very interesting. How come there are a bunch of people with $0 base salary ? Are those contractors, interns ? Also, some of those low-base employees seem to have very high employer contributions to medical/dental/vision plans. How does that work ?
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In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.
They are not "public servants" they are humans who took a job that happens to be under a unionized collective bargaining agreement. Many of these people may not care about the union, and are just happy to have a job. They are not in a place to affect change in the way the union operates or negotiates and shouldn't have anti-union stigma placed on them or be the target of public reprisals. Have some respect for people…
Now, public workers are better compensated than the private sector and still maintain guarantees for their jobs.
So which is it? Because the way I and many other Californians see it, our state is in such dire straits because unions have squeezed the public dry, run up huge deficits to fund ridiculous pension plans, and haven't done anything beyond baseline to help the People.
This is just mean. Why don't you put your own name and salary up there for us to see, mariusz331? Whether your employer is the government or a private entity and whether or not you participate in a strike you don't deserve to have your financial data exposed.
But I also support complete transparency in government. Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them. I know this will sometimes have negative consequences for the employees, but this is a balancing of interests, and in the end, I believe we're all better served by this.
We would be better served still, however, if we knew exactly how these numbers came to be, because some of them are very strange. I'm guessing we could eventually figure most of it out with sufficient research, but ideally a subject matter expert would come forward and save us some time by explaining it.
This is just mean. Why don't you put your own name and salary up there for us to see, mariusz331? Whether your employer is the government or a private entity and whether or not you participate in a strike you don't deserve to have your financial data exposed.
i just want someone to make some cool graphs with it
This is just mean. Why don't you put your own name and salary up there for us to see, mariusz331? Whether your employer is the government or a private entity and whether or not you participate in a strike you don't deserve to have your financial data exposed.
I support public employees, public employee unions, and the right of those employees/unions to strike. I also do not believe most of these salaries and other compensation are outrageous. But I also support complete transparency in government. Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them. I know this will sometimes have negative consequences for the employees, but this is a…
Very interesting. How come there are a bunch of people with $0 base salary ? Are those contractors, interns ? Also, some of those low-base employees seem to have very high employer contributions to medical/dental/vision plans. How does that work ?
Perhaps they're hourly.
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I don't know exactly how it works in USA, but generally if the union decides to go on strike, you don't have much choice as an individual member.
You have the choice to vote. The union voted to strike. Not everyone voted for it, but enough did to initiate the strike. It's usually a fairly unanimous thing. Source: once upon a time, long, long ago, I was on the executive board of a union that may or may not have voted to strike.
SEIU 98.5%
ATU 99.9%
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I support public employees, public employee unions, and the right of those employees/unions to strike. I also do not believe most of these salaries and other compensation are outrageous. But I also support complete transparency in government. Ultimately, we are their employer, and we have a right to know how much we're paying them. I know this will sometimes have negative consequences for the employees, but this is a…
Why would you support public sector unions? They face a very different dynamic than ones faced in the private sector. Here's a good write up: http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/432...
Trying to convince me public sector unions are bad by linking me to a conservative think tank rattling off a list of things public employees fight for/against is a bad idea. I fight for/against the exact same things.
So the answer to your question is, I'm a bleeding heart pinko commie bastard, that's why. Have a glass of vodka, comrade.
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By law, salaries of public sector employees are public knowledge. I think this is the same data that is seen here: http://www.mercurynews.com/salaries/bay-area?Entity=Bay%20Ar...
Yea I just got it from there. I thought it would be useful to some people in CSV format.
Though there's an error in the data. Starting at row #1001 ("Caldwell"), the "base" column seems to have disappeared.
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I don't know exactly how it works in USA, but generally if the union decides to go on strike, you don't have much choice as an individual member.
You have the choice to vote. The union voted to strike. Not everyone voted for it, but enough did to initiate the strike. It's usually a fairly unanimous thing. Source: once upon a time, long, long ago, I was on the executive board of a union that may or may not have voted to strike.