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Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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Very interesting. How come there are a bunch of people with $0 base salary ? Are those contractors, interns ? Also, some of those low-base employees seem to have very high employer contributions to medical/dental/vision plans. How does that work ?

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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It'd have been nice to anonymize this data. I know it's publicly available but we should respect people's privacy. I don't think having people's name adds anything interesting to this data set.

In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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post #4

It'd have been nice to anonymize this data. I know it's publicly available but we should respect people's privacy. I don't think having people's name adds anything interesting to this data set.

In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

Are they all members of the unions / striking?

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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post #4

It'd have been nice to anonymize this data. I know it's publicly available but we should respect people's privacy. I don't think having people's name adds anything interesting to this data set.

In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

They are not "public servants" they are humans who took a job that happens to be under a unionized collective bargaining agreement. Many of these people may not care about the union, and are just happy to have a job. They are not in a place to affect change in the way the union operates or negotiates and shouldn't have anti-union stigma placed on them or be the target of public reprisals.

Have some respect for people that just want to earn an honest salary and do good work at a job which puts them in daily contact with the entire spectrum of the human experience. They simply want to maintain a level of compensation that they have negotiated for, and that, frankly, every other worker should also be demanding from their employers, but cannot due to the erosion of union effectiveness and trust over the last 50 years.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

Are they all members of the unions / striking?

I don't know exactly how it works in USA, but generally if the union decides to go on strike, you don't have much choice as an individual member.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are they all members of the unions / striking?

I don't know exactly how it works in USA, but generally if the union decides to go on strike, you don't have much choice as an individual member.

You have the choice to vote. The union voted to strike. Not everyone voted for it, but enough did to initiate the strike. It's usually a fairly unanimous thing.

Source: once upon a time, long, long ago, I was on the executive board of a union that may or may not have voted to strike.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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post #4

It'd have been nice to anonymize this data. I know it's publicly available but we should respect people's privacy. I don't think having people's name adds anything interesting to this data set.

In general, I'd agree. However, considering the collective action the union has taken disrupting a vital service, I think they forfeit a bit of privacy in this case. They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

> They are public servants who are holding the public hostage.

I have to strongly disagree with that representation, you could just as well say that the "public" is holding their livelihoods hostage. Labor disputes are a characteristic of our economic system and are essentially morally neutral.

The question that matters is, "Does including their names add any new insight to the debate?" I do not think it does.

Re: Bart employee salaries CSV

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It'd have been nice to anonymize this data. I know it's publicly available but we should respect people's privacy. I don't think having people's name adds anything interesting to this data set.

By law, salaries of public sector employees are public knowledge.

I think this is the same data that is seen here: http://www.mercurynews.com/salaries/bay-area?Entity=Bay%20Ar...

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