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Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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Honest question: Has anyone actually found a good use for their Pebble? I wore mine once the day after it arrived, felt totally ridiculous, and it hasn't left the drawer since.

It's been awesome for me while I've been skiing.

I feel it go off on my wrist even if I'm blasting down a hill and can't hear the ringer, nor feel the vibration within my thick jacket.

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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Isn't this the classic mistake of assuming "people" on the internet are a single homogeneous group? When Pebble had a kickstarter, a lot of proponents were vocal. Now its going into best-buy, those that are vocal are (a different set of) people who have the opportunity to criticize. Those who successfully funded the project and are proud users of Pebble maybe see less desire to be vocal. There's nothing really to "go…

This is spot-on, and an exceedingly common flaw in human cognition. It drives me crazy when I hear things like "Google wants to _____", "France believes _____", "The government is trying to _____", etc. While sometimes it's a linguistic proxy for something concrete (a specific leader, opinion polls, cultural zeitgeist), it's usually a victim of that insidious Dunbar number, and the brain's attempt to cope by treating…

I don't think it's quite the same phenomenon, although related. This is about the mental error that people do in assuming that a swing in vocalized opinion is due to people changing their minds, while it's actually just different people speaking up at different times (when it suits them). Example: "Apple fan-boys used to claim skeuomorphism is the best, but now they suddenly prefer flat design, such hypocrites!".

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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"E-Paper" is the term they used. Yeah, it's an LCD, but it has the features one would want from e-ink in this context; namely, good daylight visibility and low power draw.

Hold on a minute. e-paper and LCD are two very different technologies. You could possibly charge them for misleading. Is it bistable?

It's a weird little thing, an LCD where each pixel has a bit of memory. This means that you can simply provide enough power to the LCD to drive the pixels and because of the built in memory it will display whatever it had been displaying, there's no need to continuously refresh the display from a buffer or any of the usual tricks of driving a display.

Unlike true e-ink it won't retain its state while unpowered but it does require incredibly low power for operation (tens of microwatts). They are commercially available components: http://www.sharpmemorylcd.com/

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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To me the stamp would be an acknowledgement of my support and a thank you for it. So to me, it would be about the stamp. Other wise, why not wait and just buy the thing? Not to ignore your other legitimate issues, I think the lack of a stamp is important.

The other reason to buy it as a pre-order was because it was cheaper. $125 for color via Kickstarter vs $150 for black from Best Buy.

There is always a chance that you won't get anything when you order on Kickstarter. The risk is higher.

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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And here lies my greatest frustration with hardware Kickstarters. Despite Kickstarter's protestations, hardware kickstarters have been de facto preorders. The expectations here are vastly different than "I've never done this before, help me do this". Kickstarter introduced the "risks and challenges" section after some particularly infamous failures. This section is still routinely glossed over, and project owners con…

It seems like their biggest failure was offering multiple colors. It seems like for a kickstarter they should be working on the minimum viable product. In this case, that should be just a black version.

I wish they had used an interchangeable faceplate system. Then I could remove the black face and paint it any color I wanted.

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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In middle school I was forcibly imprisoned in my locker for wearing a calculator watch, and honestly, it was a good learning experience. That thing is really ugly.

With the right band it could be very fashionable - kind of art-deco.

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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Honest question: Has anyone actually found a good use for their Pebble? I wore mine once the day after it arrived, felt totally ridiculous, and it hasn't left the drawer since.

I use mine for

* Switching music while in the shower / while hosting parties

* Runkeeper for cycling

* I have pushover setup for any important server issues / growl notifications / iffit stuff to send to my watch (best imo is I get a message every morning when my alarm goes off telling me what the weather will be for the day)

* 7 Min workout app is pretty cool

* Tetris app if i'm bored

But its really great for meetings so I can see if I actually need to look at my phone or not to pickup a call / respond to texts

I love the thing

Re: Pebble Smartwatch Is Coming To Best Buy On July 7 For $149.95

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Hold on a minute. e-paper and LCD are two very different technologies. You could possibly charge them for misleading. Is it bistable?

There's this big discussion about what constitutes "e-paper". Apparently, in some circles, e-paper is any display technology that is low-power and readable in daylight. The display in a pebble is a low-power transflective LCD display manufactured by Sharp. In Sharp's product brochure, they don't use the term e-paper though. They only say the display is "paper-like".

Hmm I find that a bit... different to my expectations. I'd always thought that e-paper absolutely required to be bistable, like paper.
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