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Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Re: Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Post by boi_v2 »

mtgx wrote: post #3

This is ridiculous. And I thought France wanted to give Snowden asylum? Was it a trick then? They seem to be playing on US' side here.

I am starting to think that too many governments are pretty scared that if they help Snowden some kind of scandal against them would come out, at the end NSA has tones of data about any one. All these is making pretty clear which governments are really concerned and committed with human rights and democracy and which are just about business and profit.

Spain and Portugal are not a surprise, corruption and persecution of activists is all over the place.

Re: Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Post by axus »

boi_v2 wrote: post #11
mtgx wrote: post #3

This is ridiculous. And I thought France wanted to give Snowden asylum? Was it a trick then? They seem to be playing on US' side here.

I am starting to think that too many governments are pretty scared that if they help Snowden some kind of scandal against them would come out, at the end NSA has tones of data about any one. All these is making pretty clear which governments are really concerned and committed with human rights and democracy and which are just about business and profit. Spain and Portugal are not a surprise, corruption and persecution…

But really, what could be a bigger scandal than suspending the 4th amendment and recording all private communication information? What can they release that compares to that?

Re: Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Post by tptacek »

m0th87 wrote: post #5
mtgx wrote: post #3

This is ridiculous. And I thought France wanted to give Snowden asylum? Was it a trick then? They seem to be playing on US' side here.

A fringe party (Le Pen) demanded asylum for Snowden. Big difference between that and a parliamentary consensus.

That fringe party being The National Front, which has approximately the same politics as you'd expect from a similarly named party in the US.

Re: Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Post by GoodIntentions »

United857 wrote: post #7

The pilot should have had balls and carried on. What could they have done? Shoot down a aircraft known to be carrying a head of state?

If they truly did interfere with free transit of the head of any state over this, I am surprised.

Shoot downs are not unheard of tho. Your comment made me recall when the Russians took down KAL 007 in the 80s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007

200+ people on that including a member of US government.

Re: Bolivia leader's jet diverted 'amid Snowden suspicions'

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Post by VladRussian2 »

axus wrote: post #12
boi_v2 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am starting to think that too many governments are pretty scared that if they help Snowden some kind of scandal against them would come out, at the end NSA has tones of data about any one. All these is making pretty clear which governments are really concerned and committed with human rights and democracy and which are just about business and profit. Spain and Portugal are not a surprise, corruption and persecution…

But really, what could be a bigger scandal than suspending the 4th amendment and recording all private communication information? What can they release that compares to that?

>What can they release that compares to that?

offshore banking accounts, kickback/bribe money transfers, undeclared real estate and other property, visits of relaxation to Berlusconi villas staffed with underage maids, etc ... a bunch of stuff that a typical politician is usually involved in. Imagine how it compares in their mind to suspension of 4th (sounds like one after a 3rd, yes?) amendment in some other country across a big ocean.

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