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How does it compare to VS Express? Why would there be two different free Visual Studio offerings...just to keep things locked down and rule out support for add-ins?
At the moment, I use PyCharm for python projects because I'm usually working on OSX (and prefer the local unix-y environment instead of the Windows-virtual-machine thing.) However, I started with PTVS years ago and really like it.
MSFT adding IDE support for Python is a good thing -- as developers, we need more options, not less.
For me, Msft and JetBrains provide the best IDEs for getting work done. The majority of my work is in Java, C#, and Python. At the moment, I use PyCharm for python projects because I'm usually working on OSX (and prefer the local unix-y environment instead of the Windows-virtual-machine thing.) However, I started with PTVS years ago and really like it. MSFT adding IDE support for Python is a good thing -- as develope…
Does anyone have experience with the free VS Shell mentioned in the article as the foundation for putting together a free of cost installation? How does it compare to VS Express? Why would there be two different free Visual Studio offerings...just to keep things locked down and rule out support for add-ins?
Anyway microsoft doesn't provide support for their core languages (C#/C++/VB) for the shell, so the main consequence is that, in the shell you basically get all the languages microsoft /doesn't/ directly support in visual studio, but nothing else. Whereas in the express editions you have an IDE you can't extend, but each edition supports one of microsoft's core languages.
Do people run django production sites on Windows? Not trolling, genuinely interested.
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If you only use the shell, can't you use something like an SSH daemon on Windows and ssh to it?
Is there any decent SSH daemon on Windows? And what shell does/would it run? cmd.exe?
The setup.exe is both the installer and the package manager.
Do people run django production sites on Windows? Not trolling, genuinely interested.
I currently maintain and run a big ol' Django project running on Apache/Windows/MSSQL (and some Oracle) here (university of Arizona). It's not that bad although myself and the other developer both use mac's so its annoying having to RDP in to do anything in a python shell.
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and PHPStorm from the same company..all their IDEs are pretty awesome!
Yeah their stuff is pretty awesome, I actuall haven't tried PHPStorm how is it? I'm learning PHP at the moment so might use it.
This doesn't even mention the most awesome feature of PTVS 2.0: mixed-mode debugging, which provides an integrated experience for debugging mixed Python/C processes. See https://pytools.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=Mixed-mode%20deb... for details. Disclaimer: I used to work on IronPython.
> This doesn't even mention the most awesome feature of PTVS 2.0: mixed-mode debugging, which provides an integrated experience for debugging mixed Python/C processes. That's really nice. I wish there would be something comparable for debugging JNI/Java code.
Just Vi or Vim for me. Used VS, VB, Eclips years back, but now back to Vi/Vim for embedded and server environment. Have not missed any of IDE features at all.
What languages do you work with? Simple things like being able to jump to the definition of a function with a press of a button (esp. when working with a large unfamiliar code base) are indispensable for me.