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Re: Never Trust Facebook

#161

My name is Scott Renfro, and I’m a software engineer at Facebook working on security and privacy. I thought I'd post the comment I submitted on the original blog post here as well. We’ve put a lot of work into making deletions permanent, so I can imagine how frustrated you must be. I’m pretty sure those story deletions are permanent, and I can’t think of any place where we can or do automatically restore user-deleted…

"I can’t think of any place where we can or do automatically restore user-deleted content months later."

http://is.gd/Eoaa8A

LOL. Think harder.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#163

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> For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, SUBJECT TO YOUR PRIVACY and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License). This IP License ends when you delete your I…

In practice does that happen? Does changing the settings on an image destroy previously made shares?

In my experience, a share is just a reference to the original post/image/whatever. The share may still exist, but I think anyone trying to access it will get an error saying that post doesn't exist, or they do not permission to view it.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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If I hadn't seen exactly the same thing with my own eyes then I would be tempted to believe you. I said this previously in another Facebook related thread: Facebook don't properly delete content that you choose to delete. Photos, check-ins and posts are just archived. I've been through and deleted everything manually on my timeline back to 2007. I noted that certain pages still showed the "counts" of content that had…

Would be nice if there was an option to delete our profiles from Hacker News too.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#165

For the 100th time, the only reason any of us are on Facebook and not Google+ or MySpace or Friendster or whatever is because all of our friends are on there with us. Facebook can and will do whatever it wants to abuse this fact, and as long as they provide the most convenient way to communicate with other people, there is nothing we can do about it, period. So rant away, my Internet friends, it's all we can do anywa…

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Re: Never Trust Facebook

#166

I've had similar issues with Facebook. After it became clear they were using my "likes" and profile information (favorite movies, books, tv shows, etC) to serve me ads I removed every single "like" I had ever done and all information from my profile. Yet I still get targeted adds based on that information.

That info has been resold 100 times already ;-)

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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I bet when you "delete" something facebook (and many others) just marks it as "hidden" so you will think it is gone. The same happen to me but with yahoo, I had an old account that was long unused, because I didn't want to lose any contact that could happen I redirected it to another email, then, after a couple of years, I decided to delete the account because only spams were being redirected. A year later I notice t…

Supposedly I don't have a Yahoo account, deleted it several years ago. It was very difficult to delete. They make you talk to the fraud/abuse dept, ask you personal questions to prove who you are, ask you over and over again are you absolutely sure, it's a long process. Same with Amazon, it's a long, frustrating process. Then I get an Amazon gift card. To claim the money I signed up for an account (used a different email address) and surprise, surprise, they had all my data saved, old purchases, etc.

This should be illegal and I bet there are some countries that don't tolerate it. Germany?

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#168
In the EU, there was a law in the makeing around "the right to be forgotten". Looks like we really need it, probably for Google as well.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

#169

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Growing number of my friends are in FB with fake names and identities. It's more complicated when you add new friends or they want to add you, but otherwise it's ok for keeping touch with close friends. Yes, its against FB user agreement but fuck that.

In theory it sounds like a good idea, but imagine a scenario where your bank needs to confirm your identity and they outsource this task to a 3rd party that has incorrect data about you (actually happened to me) and when you provide the correct information they tell you it's incorrect and conclude you are not who you say you are. In my particular case they just had old data that was simply inaccurate. Is it unlikely…

>Is it unlikely that 3rd party would buy data from Facebook or some entity that obtained the inaccurate data from Facebook?

Probably. Using a fake/altered name is incredibly common on Facebook, especially among younger people. I think any 3rd party assigned with that task would realize that and avoid it.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Growing number of my friends are in FB with fake names and identities. It's more complicated when you add new friends or they want to add you, but otherwise it's ok for keeping touch with close friends. Yes, its against FB user agreement but fuck that.

Pretty sure that a sufficiently deeply filled out social graph can be leveraged to figure out who Foo Bar is, even if he has no info about himself.

Oh, I absolutely guarantee it. Your FB search history, other people's FB search history (of your real name and of your fake name), which pages you view in correlation with what e-mail contacts you might have, the schools the people you talk to went to, etc.

Luckily there's no online record of relationship history or it'd be an open and close case.

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