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Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by cbr »

BWStearns wrote: post #56
novum wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think there's any malicious intent. In my demographic, (almost) all events are set up through FB because your friend graph, mass-invites, and guest lists are built in. My flatmate's boyfriend is fond of throwing large house parties with hundreds of invitees, then hiring a doorman to check names off against the FB RSVP list. If you're not on it, you're not admitted. My closest friends remember me and send me i…

Since killing my account (because they kept resetting my privacy settings to public... bastards) I've outsourced my Facebook Birthday/Party monitoring to my girlfriend.

It's risky to own lots of stock in your employer because you losing your job would be more likely to come at a time when your investments were worth less. It's risky to let your SO handle too much of your social life for similar reasons.

I'm very close to my wife and can't imagine getting a divorce, but I think it's healthy that we manage our own social calendars.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by baddox »

EGreg wrote: post #134
baddox wrote: post #104

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> How do you apply that seemingly unassailable stance to something like iPhone/iCloud, where photos you take with the only camera you have on you during once-in-a-lifetime-moments are immediately and automatically uploaded to a third party for safekeeping? I apply it equally. The same goes for VPS, EC2, etc., and (especially given recent revelations) it's clear it should apply even to unencrypted communications over…

Do you think if you pay an ISP specifically to not divulge your data to others, and they do, then you should be able to get restitution legally, since they broke the contract? At what point can you actually have a basis for legal recourse? Once again the problem is that we don't have decentralized technology that would store our data encrypted and serve it only to those who we have granted access. But we will. Actual…

I absolutely think that you can and should make contracts that provide for restitution, if possible. It's up to each individual what sort of restitution they would require for leaking certain pieces of their data.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by whatsup »

sgrenfro wrote: post #132

My name is Scott Renfro, and I’m a software engineer at Facebook working on security and privacy. I thought I'd post the comment I submitted on the original blog post here as well. We’ve put a lot of work into making deletions permanent, so I can imagine how frustrated you must be. I’m pretty sure those story deletions are permanent, and I can’t think of any place where we can or do automatically restore user-deleted…

"We’ve put a lot of work into making deletions permanent".

You use MYSQL, right? "DELETE user WHERE acct_id='123'". Done.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by randartie »

Timeline shows only popular posts you make. If you delete the posts on timeline then only a subset of your posts are deleted AND they will get replaced by other less popular posts you made in the past. You'd need to go into user settings and delete items directly from the activity log. This clearly isn't a huge usecase (1 by 1 item deletion).

This is just another case of user misunderstanding/error which gets blamed on facebook.

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by mariuolo »

lukejduncan wrote: post #23

Facebook has value, but no matter what your privacy settings are set to, no matter what you delete, always assume that anything you write or do on Facebook - in any context - will be embarrassingly public. 1) Because it will and 2) because it just makes life easier. When my wife and I were first dating, for religious and cultural reasons her parents didn't know. Her parents are conservative Muslims and mine conservat…

Doesn't that also make your sister in law a tattletale?

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by GhotiFish »

devindotcom wrote: post #40

There seems to be a philosophical difference in how users versus services view ownership of data and posts like this. If you write status "foo" and someone else comments "bar," who owns what? Do you own the comment because it is subordinate to your post? If your post was just a letter, and someone wrote an essay in a comment underneath it, do you own that essay and can you delete it without permission from its creato…

>"merriam-webster defines..." line. God, I can't stand that!

A Kindred spirit!

Re: Never Trust Facebook

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Post by john61 »

a3_nm wrote: post #130
john61 wrote: post #10

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People that don't understand that I do not like FB are not my friends.

I used to think this, but the truth is more complex. Facebook makes it easy for a lot of people to manage very large number of friends. If you're not using Facebook but most people around you are using it, even though your close friends would probably care enough about you to communicate with you through some other means, you will probably be missing out on a large number of distant acquaintances. The usual counter-a…

If you are not going to be happy if you are not honest to your beliefs.
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