Why is this on HN and getting up-voted?
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#12Unless you have a real emergency and need assistance, it's best to avoid the police whenever possible, even if you've done nothing wrong. Local police forces have many officers that are poorly trained and believe that they have plenary power or act as if they do in any situation. Of course, this isn't true about all local police officers, but if you don't know which officers are the good ones, you should just avoid a…
It depends on what you're optimizing for. If for your personal safety, short term comfort, or the rapid erosion of basic constitutional rights... yep, it's best to avoid whenever possible.
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#13This will likely go to court and the dog owner will win a settlement for wrongful arrest. Here in LA I regularly hear stories like this. I don't know the local stats, but in NYC apparently the city has paid out over $500million in litigation settlements, including those for false arrest. [ see http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/10/wrongful-dru... ]
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#16Why is this on HN and getting up-voted?
OP probably had HN and reddit open in separate tabs, just got mixed up.
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#17Why is this on HN and getting up-voted?
I know we're in a government-authority-hating mood right now, but I agree that this shouldn't be here. Hacker news is not /r/news
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#18This story/video needs a warning. Warning: there is a graphic disgusting killing of an animal in the video.
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#19Fucking disgusting. More information: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/07/01/viral-video-appear... Apparently happened in Hawthorne, CA.
2:19 [0] in the second video is also disgusting [0]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI&t=139
(to anyone who hasn't seen the second video, it shows the owner pulling quickly on the leash of the dog)
I admit this is somewhat controversial. I grew up with large dogs (dobermans, german shepherds, mostly) from a young age and philosophies about this shift. That said, the dog doesn't appear to be wearing a choke or pinch collar and my personal opinion is that the action likely caused no pain or discomfort. Supporters of it would argue that it snaps the dog's attention from what it's doing (straying toward the street in this case).
That said, I understand if people find it unfortunate (or even disgusting) but to use the same word I did would cause people to infer that you might be comparing the two things (an almost-certainly unlawful arrest and murder of the dog, with the way the owner corrected him). I hope that wasn't your intention.
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#20I was expecting a bad video, but not THAT bad... I mean, I expected they to shoot the dog and the dog drop dead, seeing the dog doing... whatever it did... when it got shot was hard on the stomach. :( Even worse, the owner of the dog DID put it in the car, I believe so he could confront the cops without the dog threatning them... But it did not worked :(
I am a dog lover through and through. But it is very tough to see what the police could have done differently, except maybe taser him/her instead. That dog looks like he was 70+ lbs, and he was lunging at the officer, in my view. It's very, very sad to have seen this -- I wish the window had been rolled up.
That said, yes the police did instigate this in the larger sense by (I guess?) arresting him for taping the incident.