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Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable.

Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few lines of CSS counts as "an application" these days.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

#12

Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable. Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few…

You can absolutely just buy the font and serve it yourself: http://www.typography.com/fonts/whitney/styles/whitneyscreen...

edit: ok, I didn't read their EULA. Nevermind.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #12

Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable. Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few…

You can absolutely just buy the font and serve it yourself: http://www.typography.com/fonts/whitney/styles/whitneyscreen... edit: ok, I didn't read their EULA. Nevermind.

The price for "serving it yourself" on the web is not listed: if you serve it yourself, more than 50 computers will be able to download it!

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #12

Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable. Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few…

You can absolutely just buy the font and serve it yourself: http://www.typography.com/fonts/whitney/styles/whitneyscreen... edit: ok, I didn't read their EULA. Nevermind.

Technically, you may be able to, but legally, the license doesn't allow for it.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #12

Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable. Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few…

You can absolutely just buy the font and serve it yourself: http://www.typography.com/fonts/whitney/styles/whitneyscreen... edit: ok, I didn't read their EULA. Nevermind.

And then you can wait for the cease and desist letter to arrive, since none of H+FJ's typography.com faces are licensed for use on the web outside their service.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

#16

Yet again I'll have to use someone's arbitrary font-serving service instead of using @font-face and hosting the fonts myself. I'd really prefer to just purchase the font, but this is surely more profitable. Also, check out this section for a laugh: http://www.typography.com/cloud/how-it-works/#the-delivery-a... . "It constructs an application capable of recognizing requests from different browsers." Apparently a few…

None of the major foundries are OK with you embedding fonts into web pages by publishing their fonts as resources on the web, there to be downloaded by anyone else who wants to compose documents with those fonts.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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What makes this different from typekit? It's quite a bit more expensive ($99 for 250,000 pageviews on cloud.typography vs $49 for 500,000 on typekit) and I'm wondering what extras it provides.

It doesn't seem to provide much in the way of competing directly with Typekit. Still, this is big news for a lot of people. H&FJ is practically THE type foundry for original typefaces. They compete on quality rather than price or other tangible benefits. Unfortunately, it's been impossible to license H&FJ type for real web use until now. The most likely group of people who will use this are type enthusiasts who prefe…

H+FJ doesn't serve the kind of user who feels that "buying individual fonts feels outdated", or who does price competition in the two digit range between different foundries. Instead, they sell to people for whom any price they could reasonably come up with for this service would be a rounding error.

Prior to launching Cloud Typography, H+FJ didn't sell web fonts at all. Things seemed to have been going pretty well for them.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #13
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can absolutely just buy the font and serve it yourself: http://www.typography.com/fonts/whitney/styles/whitneyscreen... edit: ok, I didn't read their EULA. Nevermind.

The price for "serving it yourself" on the web is not listed: if you serve it yourself, more than 50 computers will be able to download it!

I don't think there is a price for "serving it yourself on the web"; outside of a small number of early beta users, the professional websites you saw using H+FJ fonts were probably using image replacement.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #5

What makes this different from typekit? It's quite a bit more expensive ($99 for 250,000 pageviews on cloud.typography vs $49 for 500,000 on typekit) and I'm wondering what extras it provides.

First of all - a lot of the fonts available on Typekit - actually, anywhere, are, ahem, inspired by H&FJ.

This is the first offering that matches the H&FJ to quality. For instance, my favorite font at the moment is Ideal Sans. The concept here is to infuse a sans serif with an almost handlettered quality. There are no straight lines. Consequently it's hard to make it look good for the screen, period, let alone at small sizes. But they've done it.

http://www.typography.com/fonts/ideal-sans/overview/

RandsInRepose.com has been beta testing it and it's gotten notably better over the past year, I think.

Re: Introducing Cloud Typography Webfonts by H&FJ

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post #17
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't seem to provide much in the way of competing directly with Typekit. Still, this is big news for a lot of people. H&FJ is practically THE type foundry for original typefaces. They compete on quality rather than price or other tangible benefits. Unfortunately, it's been impossible to license H&FJ type for real web use until now. The most likely group of people who will use this are type enthusiasts who prefe…

H+FJ doesn't serve the kind of user who feels that "buying individual fonts feels outdated", or who does price competition in the two digit range between different foundries. Instead, they sell to people for whom any price they could reasonably come up with for this service would be a rounding error. Prior to launching Cloud Typography, H+FJ didn't sell web fonts at all. Things seemed to have been going pretty well f…

Of course -- H&FJ is an excellent foundry, and they're not competing in the same space as, say, Google Web fonts. That's what I mean by not competitive. It's a completely different league, as it sounds like you're well aware.

The people who like H&FJ for the quality will subscribe and use this service, while those looking for a commodity option will avoid it -- perhaps even to the benefit of H&FJ.

I know I'll subscribe shortly, which is why I hope this works for their business. It really is an interesting decision when compared to the providers whose offerings keep dropping in price to compete in a commodity market.

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