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No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Re: No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Maybe, just maybe, this might get the US government to stop, or at least drastically limit its spying operations.

One would think so, but from Keith's mouth, it seems like the solution is to do more of the same (of which has taken us to this point).

Re: No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Maybe, just maybe, this might get the US government to stop, or at least drastically limit its spying operations.

Criminals that go to jail aren't rehabilitated, they just learn to be better criminals.

Governments that get busted doing shady shit don't rehabilitate themselves, they just learn to hide it better.

Re: No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Actual translation: because of the behavior of U.S. government, E.U. government(s) will make it hard for E.U. citizens to trade with U.S. citizens.

So normal people get spied on and bullied by one government, then because of that their life is made even more complicated by some other government. Great outcome!

When people will realize that the problem is always in the governments themselves as a concept, not in any particular issues? It's totally okay to be an atheist today, but we need just one extra little step to be anarchists and it's so, so, so complicated. While belief in a magical all-powerful and caring government is no different than a belief in deity.

Re: No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Frankly, I can't see a single good reason for this trade agreement, and a lot of good reasons against, starting with that I (and all other Europeans) don't want GM food, hormone beef and chlorinated chicken in my plate any day soon.

All the harder to see the good reason when it's negotiated in secret. (Unless you are a favored lobbyist.)

Re: No free trade agreement if charges of espionage are true, warns EU Commissioner

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Maybe, just maybe, this might get the US government to stop, or at least drastically limit its spying operations.

Criminals that go to jail aren't rehabilitated, they just learn to be better criminals. Governments that get busted doing shady shit don't rehabilitate themselves, they just learn to hide it better.

This post makes no sense. Saying 'Criminals' become better criminals in prison is oppressive and discriminatory and how on earth it is related to this issue at all I do not know.
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