Maybe this is a good time to re-evaluate what sort of communities you want to be associated with. There is a solution for these problems; just segregate yourself from the abusive people. Public multiplayer is not just worth it.
Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame
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#52Children are cruel. News at 11.
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#53I'm a guy and a gamer... I've opened my eyes on this issue for some time now. Yes we trash talk a lot in games, and yeah we don't see it as a big deal for the most part, because there's a part of creativity in trash talking in some ways so we can ignore all but the more original (and often laughable) insults. But when someone is revealed as a woman, some people really go nuts. It activates some really ugly beta part…
> Yes we trash talk a lot in games, and yeah we don't see it as a big deal for the most part, because there's a part of creativity in trash talking in some ways so we can ignore all but the more original (and often laughable) insults. No, we don't. You do. Please do not attempt to normalize the ridiculous toxic vitriol that Xbox Live and League of Legends et al. extends to the silent community at large. Trash talking…
The way I see it, trash talking can happen but in a sort of ironic, sportsmanlike way, in which it's kinda known that it isn't real, sort of like prodding or banter. However, it's when you cross that line of respect that it becomes flat out abuse.
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#54Nonsense, a lot of male players play with female characters. No one who played such games for longer than a week would even assume you're female based on your character.
The article said it was based on her gamertag.
Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame
#55I'm a guy and a gamer... I've opened my eyes on this issue for some time now. Yes we trash talk a lot in games, and yeah we don't see it as a big deal for the most part, because there's a part of creativity in trash talking in some ways so we can ignore all but the more original (and often laughable) insults. But when someone is revealed as a woman, some people really go nuts. It activates some really ugly beta part…
A lot of female gamers go nuts online too, mostly of the attention-seeking nature. Of course it's not every every female, but that small portion has had an indirect part in creating all these stereotypes and behaviors. Essentially, both sides really need to grow up.
How funny that one side going nuts is "Hey look at meeee !" and the other side is "I hope you get raped and killed and whatever, bitch".
Do you really think that those behaviors are equivalent ? Because they're not. Some female players may be behaving badly, but in terms of scale and gravity it doesn't match the abuse of male players towards female players.
Perhaps you didn't meant to, but your comment sounded like white people always bringing back anecdotal cases of anti-white racism to try to make up for the most common cases of racism. Or the male-rape vs female-rape issue.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is using the term "raped" sexist? Because when it comes from people spraying porn on any surface they come in contact with, or who address females (whom they don't happen to suck up to) as "bitch" on principle, or any male they don't like as "fag", it's rather obvious how this all connects, and that it's basically insecure dumb male chauvinism letting the hair down. At this point it doesn't even matter if some fe…
Those people also spray male genitals and homosexual porn. They normally aim to be annoying (trolls, griefers, etc). That has nothing to do with the word raped though. Your second answer goes off in a tangent so I won't bother with that.
Those people also spray male genitals and homosexual porn. They normally aim to be annoying (trolls, griefers, etc).
Those people also react aggressively without any humour to women who show confidence? Bullshit. And just because some people do sexist stuff for the purpose of trolling, doesn't mean it's not based on actual sexism, and that the actual sexism doesn't occur at the same time. I guess it just gives some people an opportunity to put their blinders on.
Your second answer goes off in a tangent so I won't bother with that.
Heh? Kindly scroll up: you asked, I answered. And if you think those terms are not based on physical dominance and how that attracts some men and rarely women, then I think you're even more unaware of the real world than of gaming.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
The first thing I hear when I log into games is not "Oh great... a boy player? Fuck. Are you serious? Let's kick her and hope we get someone else." I've heard various things of this nature, for various non-gendered reasons. Give a team any reason to think you are either a) a bot or b) not good and they will boot you. Did you seriously just ask if it would be sexist to not be sexist? Sexism is treating people differen…
I understand your point re: definitions of sexism, but I think EliRivers gets it right here in regards to performance versus person. And it's different to be on the receiving end when you're the threatened minority. It just is.
it's different to be on the receiving end when you're the threatened minority. It just is.
Only if you choose to make it so.
In my last job (not in the US), I was the minority. People made jokes about Americans (e.g. "no American jokes - they sue") along with many other groups. I chose not to make it a big deal (being the oppressed minority is boring to me) so it wasn't.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand your point re: definitions of sexism, but I think EliRivers gets it right here in regards to performance versus person. And it's different to be on the receiving end when you're the threatened minority. It just is.
it's different to be on the receiving end when you're the threatened minority. It just is. Only if you choose to make it so. In my last job (not in the US), I was the minority. People made jokes about Americans (e.g. "no American jokes - they sue") along with many other groups. I chose not to make it a big deal (being the oppressed minority is boring to me) so it wasn't.
> it's different to be on the receiving end when you're the threatened minority. It just is.
> Only if you choose to make it so.
The perfect demonstration of why HN is a hateful place to discuss sexism, racism, etc.
"See, women, it's your fault. Just get over it already."
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
A more relevant picture would be this: http://imgur.com/F8j0Ieq
This is a throwaway account created by someone who, as the name implies, thinks this sort of thing is acceptable but is afraid that people will disagree. Almost certainly male, he's an insecure coward, bizarrely valuing his approval by strangers here (his karma score) so much that he creates new accounts when he wants to say something he knows people will disagree with, so that he can continue to feel good about how…
Either that or somebody who doesn't have a HN account and is going around reposting this anywhere that this article is discussed.
Every "gender issues" thread on HN seems to attract new accounts that are here only for gender issues.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is using the term "raped" sexist? Because when it comes from people spraying porn on any surface they come in contact with, or who address females (whom they don't happen to suck up to) as "bitch" on principle, or any male they don't like as "fag", it's rather obvious how this all connects, and that it's basically insecure dumb male chauvinism letting the hair down. At this point it doesn't even matter if some fe…
I still don't understand how the term "raped" is sexist. For "raped" to be sexist, it would have to imply some gender when both men and women can be raped.
Have you ever looked at what rape is in REAL life ? It's something done massively by men and a huge proportions of rapes are by men on women. Words don't exist in a vacuum. Rape is not some vaporous ethereal concept.