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Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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How does this differ from the normal male experience in video games? "Go get butt-raped" would hardly be an uncommon thing for a male player to hear. Wouldn't it be sexist for gamers to tone down the trash talk simply because a woman is playing?

Saying "rape" is just a part of gaming culture is hardly a defense.

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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That's what we would call "moral majority".

You should avoid places where "moral majority" tends to gather.

I've played quite a bit of Diablo III hardcore last year on Europe, and people were mostly friendly. Altough you should not take everything being said in game chat at its face value - it's game after all.

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #12

The fact is there are a lot of assholes on the internet. People will insult you no matter what, and in doing so they'll insult you using any way you are different: if you're a girl, if you're gay, if you're not white, if you're younger than average, older than average, from another country, not good at the game (noob), too good at the game (get a life), etc, etc. Sucks, but in almost every game there is no requiremen…

Online games are a form of competition. Competition of any sort usually has a physical aspect, and a psychological aspect.

If Competitor A can use insults to get Competitor B flustered to the point that it affects Competitor B's ability to play the game, then Competitor A has given himself or herself an advantage.

If Competitor A's insults get Competitor B to quit playing altogether, then it's even more of an advantage for Competitor A.

Once you realize this, the insults become irrelevant. Just ignore them. It's not difficult, and they really have no impact unless you let them bother you.

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but calling yourself Dizzy Lizzy instead of Lord of Death Pain Master is a dead giveaway to pro gamers. Also, nonsense what? You never encountered sexism when playing online? Just consider how it's actually considered perfectly fine by many to call a decisive win "rape" :/

How is using the term "raped" sexist? Are you also offended by the words "dominated", "murdered", "owned"?

How is using the term "raped" sexist?

Because when it comes from people spraying porn on any surface they come in contact with, or who address females (whom they don't happen to suck up to) as "bitch" on principle, or any male they don't like as "fag", it's rather obvious how this all connects, and that it's basically insecure dumb male chauvinism letting the hair down. At this point it doesn't even matter if some females parrot the language as well, the source is still obvious.

Are you also offended by the words "dominated", "murdered", "owned"?

Not offended, but I pity the fools, yes. These concepts have one thing in common to me; I understand how they would seem desirable to people who can't make women laugh nor orgasm. Of course, just because every Volvo is a car, doesn't mean every car is a Volvo. But still.

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #16
post #7

1) As a guy, I've had horrible stuff said to me as well. I've heard N-word, "fag", etc... These are 12 year olds we're dealing with. 2) There seems something deeply ironic that the big strong man was signing on to unlock things for the poor wife here...

1) During the game yeah. Not just while logging in. I bet nobody just tried to kick you out of a game because of your nametag.

I've had people try to kick me out for various reasons - not typing a response fast enough, thinking I'm chinese, and a number of reasons I couldn't even decipher.

Due to white knight emotional impulses, we treat attacks on females in games as special. But I don't see a logical reason to do this.

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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I'm a guy and a gamer... I've opened my eyes on this issue for some time now. Yes we trash talk a lot in games, and yeah we don't see it as a big deal for the most part, because there's a part of creativity in trash talking in some ways so we can ignore all but the more original (and often laughable) insults. But when someone is revealed as a woman, some people really go nuts. It activates some really ugly beta part…

A more relevant picture would be this:

http://imgur.com/F8j0Ieq

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #17

There are wide swathes of the video game community which are absolutely toxic, in every possible way you can imagine and some which people of good will would have difficulty imagining. I wish game companies did a better job of market-based approaches to limiting this. I've often thought, in League of Legends, that I'd pay $100 for access to a special queue which matched me up with other people who had paid $100 to ac…

I'm continually surprised where civilized folks are coming from. I'm currently in lower tiers (silver 5) where I've met the most understanding strangers, who probably play occassionally like me and quite possibly wouldn't pay $100 to get isolated queues. On the other hand if I come across gold or higher tier players in normal games, they tend to have exactly zero tolerance for mistakes and absolutely no patience to solve situations; even if they'd be willing to spend $100 to play with curated comrads.

I'm not suggesting that commitment to the game (and therefore willingness to pay extra) is inversely proportional to the quality of behavior, but I've seen my share of anecdotal evidence. (Probably the situation is better in diamond and above, but boy I suck to ever reach it.)

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #14

How does this differ from the normal male experience in video games? "Go get butt-raped" would hardly be an uncommon thing for a male player to hear. Wouldn't it be sexist for gamers to tone down the trash talk simply because a woman is playing?

> the first thing I hear over the headphones was: “Oh great.. a girl player? F*ck. Are you serious? Let’s kick her and hope we get someone else.” The first thing I hear when I log into games is not "Oh great... a boy player? Fuck. Are you serious? Let's kick her and hope we get someone else." > Wouldn't it be sexist for gamers to tone down the trash talk simply because a woman is playing? Did you seriously just ask i…

The first thing I hear when I log into games is not "Oh great... a boy player? Fuck. Are you serious? Let's kick her and hope we get someone else."

I've heard various things of this nature, for various non-gendered reasons. Give a team any reason to think you are either a) a bot or b) not good and they will boot you.

Did you seriously just ask if it would be sexist to not be sexist?

Sexism is treating people differently based on their gender. So yes, I assert it would be sexist to say to men "jail rape u gayayay nigz" but to tell women "tally ho madam, you have soundly defeated me."

Re: Game On Ladies - A man logs in as his wife's character in a videogame

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post #17

There are wide swathes of the video game community which are absolutely toxic, in every possible way you can imagine and some which people of good will would have difficulty imagining. I wish game companies did a better job of market-based approaches to limiting this. I've often thought, in League of Legends, that I'd pay $100 for access to a special queue which matched me up with other people who had paid $100 to ac…

> I've often thought, in League of Legends, that I'd pay $100 for access to a special queue which matched me up with other people who had paid $100 to access it.

Do you even need a fee? I used to play Counter-Strike a lot and there was always a wide variety of servers. From "free for all" (FFA) and anything goes to private ones that required registration and had staff strictly policing skill, teamplay, language, microphone noises...

Then there were "gathers." Like pick-up games in soccer or basketball but organized via IRC. People who were annoying just wouldn't get picked.

All of that was free for the participants. Servers, channels, websites were all provided by the players themselves.

I don't really play computer games any more but is this not an option for modern games and systems? Another regression like Usenet?

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