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Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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That's valid. Remote desktop opens up some interesting attack vectors, whether used by the NSA or just some hacker with malicious intent. There's nothing I can see about security mitigations...

"valid" aside from the fact that there's no way in this world or the next that all of that video and remote desktop traffic is going though Google's servers.

So, two users behind a proper NAT or firewall won't be able to use this feature?

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Am I the only one who prefers regular gchat to google hangouts? It's super difficult to figure out who on my contact list is online or not. I also mistake old msgs as new ones because of the lack of time-stamps. Maybe I'm missing a check-box or something that could fix all this but I gave up and switched back to gchat almost immediately.

I complained about this for a while, but then I saw someone use Hangouts on mobile. I suddenly realized why Google designed it this way. Of course the designers noticed that it was hard to determine who was offline and who was online. In fact, that's the whole point. Google is incrementally eliminating the distinction between the online and offline world. Pretty soon, the concept of offline won't exist anymore -- eve…

So do you suppose that is why you can't be invisible when using the iOS Hangouts app?

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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If you want to carry on the analogy, Google has a debit card that only works at Google and unlike Walmart it won't accept competitors coupons and all the stuff sold in store isn't sold anywhere else. You also can't take it apart, and only people with Google debit cards can see any of it when it leaves the store. Hangouts is becoming a nightmare of a proprietary locked in mess that is destroying decades of progress in…

"They are killing Jingle and XMPP by depreciating Talk..." As of two or three weeks ago, the Hangouts videoconferencing code used WebRTC, Jingle, and a variety of video and audio codecs (among which one could find Opus.). If you run the software on a *nix system, you can verify my claims by checking the contents of /tmp/gtalkplugin.log while you're in a video call with someone. Note that that file seems to be flushed…

My point is more even if they continue to use Jingle on the backend they defeat the point of Jabber by putting the auth servers in a proprietary backend. The whole point of XMPP was to stop making messaging / communication formats that don't play in the same sandbox and can't interopt. I can't contact someone in a hangout (via chat or voice) with anything but a hangout.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

#65

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"valid" aside from the fact that there's no way in this world or the next that all of that video and remote desktop traffic is going though Google's servers.

So, two users behind a proper NAT or firewall won't be able to use this feature?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punching

tada.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

#66

The best remote desktop software I have used is - http://www.join.me Just have the other person click 'Share', wait a bit for it to load, then have them copy and paste their share URL. It works right in the browser and is free. If Google Hangouts make this easier for me to fix my mother's laptop I'm all for it!

Dang it, I'd been looking for something just like this very recently, and my Google-fu had failed me. Man I wish I'd been able to find this.

Been using it for about a year, its amazing. The way it is going the free version may be sunset fairly soon.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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And Google continues killing off niche application vendors... WalMart of the Internet.

Screen sharing is a Skype feature. If having a broadly available free tool with deep-pocketed corporate support was going to kill off that "niche", then it's surely been dead for years already. This is just Google achieving feature parity with the existing players. I mean, I'm as much a cynic as anyone, but I swear that these days it seems like Google can't catch a break on this site.

I thought Skype offers only screen sharing, but doesn't allow to control other person's desktop. I might be wrong though.

Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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That's valid. Remote desktop opens up some interesting attack vectors, whether used by the NSA or just some hacker with malicious intent. There's nothing I can see about security mitigations...

"valid" aside from the fact that there's no way in this world or the next that all of that video and remote desktop traffic is going though Google's servers.

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Re: Google Hangouts adds remote desktop support

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Can anyone comment on how a browser plugin gets access to the desktop? (even if hangouts doesn't do it, there's a remote desktop plugin) I'm a curmudgeon, but it seems like it's like designing a washing machine attachment that serves as a home security system and pasta maker. Are there OS or X11 permissions that can restrict userland apps from deviating far from their original use case?

NPAPI plugins, ActiveX controls, etc. are just native libraries that are loaded into the browser's process. So, they can do anything that any other native application can do.
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