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shkspr.mobi

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Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

#21
Better option: don't get a job that involves raising your social media "influence", unless you want that to be your job?

A manager could equally well bring up your number of twitter followers (that's publicly viewable, right?) in a performance review.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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http://imgur.com/vn27Bf6 This does sound like a bait-and-switch from Klout, but I don't understand the appeal of networking for networking's sake.

Heh! You got me :-) But, in seriousness, with those buttons you can see the reach of that post on each social network. It would be fairly trivial for you to verify those numbers are correct and to come to your own conclusions about whether my blog has "influence". I'm not against badges per se - but I don't like an obfuscated way of calculating something.

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Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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No, I am not going to opt out. 1. A system in which I personally have to contact every scammer that had the same idea is not a system I wish to accept and play along with. 2. By going to their site and authenticating, I have proven to them that I am a) an active user and b) there is a chance they may hold some power over me by collecting my data. While they may make a "promise" not to store my data, they can toss the…

I've already replied to nochuck13's comment, but I'll add it here as well.

For #3, access to your public profile AND friend list really is the minimum level of access you can ask from the Facebook API. See https://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/login/public-....

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh! You got me :-) But, in seriousness, with those buttons you can see the reach of that post on each social network. It would be fairly trivial for you to verify those numbers are correct and to come to your own conclusions about whether my blog has "influence". I'm not against badges per se - but I don't like an obfuscated way of calculating something.

Given that I know very little about Krout, perhaps you could explain why you participated in the first place. I don't wish to sound rude; I'm genuinely interested in what exactly you did, and why you thought it was worth doing. Basically, can you expand on: " A vaguely plausible "score" that you can use to justify your "investment" in tweeting all day long. " Thanks

I didn't participate. Klout hoover up public information. Are you on Twitter or Facebook? Congratulations! You are a Klout user by default!

They have a score for you which they can then sell on.

Sme with Kred. You don't sign up - they just assume passive consent.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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As a founder of a company in that same space I would like to add some nuance to this blog. Putting it as simple as scoring people and helping you sell back the data so you can improve your score is to simple. Scoring, ranking and sorting people is important for the future of the web. It's comparable to Google's pagerank. You need some sort of analyses/score/rank to value the content shared by someone. But with pagera…

I wonder if services like yours won't just perpetuate and strengthen the so-called "superstar" effect. It's a feedback loop where a few people at the top reap all the rewards for being at the top already (and being "recommended" to everyone else). I'm not interested in having Robert Scoble or Michael Arrington recommended to me, I already know about them and am not interested in following them. I'd like to know about…

The superstar effect is true, and even google has trouble coping with that, hence the changes in their algorithms over and over.

The "prima donnas" you're talking about are perhaps known to you but a larger majority not. But if you would look in the longtail you would definitely find interesting people.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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As a founder of a company in that same space I would like to add some nuance to this blog. Putting it as simple as scoring people and helping you sell back the data so you can improve your score is to simple. Scoring, ranking and sorting people is important for the future of the web. It's comparable to Google's pagerank. You need some sort of analyses/score/rank to value the content shared by someone. But with pagera…

You need some sort of analyses/score/rank to value the content shared by someone.

I am perfectly well able to do this myself, thanks. Most of the ratings that surround online content are useless noise.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

#27
The de facto opt-in without realizing is wrong. What if a future employer sees you have a high klout score and thinks you waste time on twitter etc? When in fact you only use it for keeping up with trends in tech world like web dev or python. It's nuts to be assigned a number without knowing how its generated.

Also great use of the word frippery. Never saw that one before.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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As a founder of a company in that same space I would like to add some nuance to this blog. Putting it as simple as scoring people and helping you sell back the data so you can improve your score is to simple. Scoring, ranking and sorting people is important for the future of the web. It's comparable to Google's pagerank. You need some sort of analyses/score/rank to value the content shared by someone. But with pagera…

> Scoring, ranking and sorting people is important for the future of the web. [...] You need some sort of analyses/score/rank to value the content shared by someone.

This strikes me as some kind of variant of the ad hominem fallacy. You don't need to know anything about the author to value their content. A piece could be anonymous or the author's sole work and still be worth reading; conversely, people with high internet reputations often write garbage.

Edit: I meant appeal to authority, not ad hominem. Insufficient coffee error.

Re: Opt Out of Klout Now

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The idea of a web site keeping a profile on me based on a conglomeration of my other profiles makes me think of it as an "open source" PRISM...

What exactly is "open source" about it?

Intelligence people call reading the newspaper "OSINT", open source intelligence. They'll claim there's more to it than reading the paper, of course.
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