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Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by randomsearch »

nether wrote: post #46
kevinpet wrote: post #8

It's the supreme luxury to be able to reject society. It's a luxury that's only available to those who are either born to wealth or put a lot of effort into obtaining it. There are also the "I just don't use money, man" people who are actually just living off the charity of friends.

It's much easier to be homeless in a lot of developing nations like Nepal, Indonesia, Vietnam. In the US you get thrown in jail/shelter for being homeless, in those countries though many people simply live off the land or work for barter their entire lives. It takes less effort than it sounds, but enormous fortitude to become an expat.

That's funny, because I was walking around San Francisco today and there were lots of homeless people on the streets, not in prison or a shelter.

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by drawkbox »

It really is a societal agreement. We all benefit from it in the end, we can't do it all for ourselves so we divide it up. Just like agriculture allowed us to move beyond basic food survival needs to thinking people, we all do parts to advance quality of life.

It also gives you a sense of purpose. i.e. the power grid guys keep peace as much as soldiers as one example.

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by sliverstorm »

millerc wrote: post #56

Because life is hard. You might think yourself part of an advanced civilization, but the moment you step out of society, you live in a jungle. "No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me,…

This is one of those things advanced civilizations really hide from us, so it becomes so easy to think the world is full of roses and nothing to be afraid of.

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by sliverstorm »

zhemao wrote: post #53
johnnyg wrote: post #14

Rah rah. So you are sitting in your economical abode eating your economical food with a pleased non-servant grin. And there you sit. And sit. The urge to build or do will come. Building is better with others. And soon you are back to having to make trade offs to build something you want or people want. To me, I'm always going to build. So yeah, all I can do is either pick the best masters available to me, figure out…

More like there you toil in the hot sun so that the crop on which your future survival depends doesn't become choked by weeds, devoured by pests, or withered from heat. People forget that agriculture was a back breaking affair and an often unreliable source of sustenance before mechanization and large factory farms came around. It remains back-breaking and unreliable for those in poorer nations not fortunate enough t…

Who said anything about agriculture? That shit's hard work. Does driving to the supermarket and buying food somehow preclude living off the grid?

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Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by sliverstorm »

randomsearch wrote: post #61
nether wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's much easier to be homeless in a lot of developing nations like Nepal, Indonesia, Vietnam. In the US you get thrown in jail/shelter for being homeless, in those countries though many people simply live off the land or work for barter their entire lives. It takes less effort than it sounds, but enormous fortitude to become an expat.

That's funny, because I was walking around San Francisco today and there were lots of homeless people on the streets, not in prison or a shelter.

San Francisco does welcome the homeless with open arms, though. Did you hear the city was talking about paying the homeless a stipend, for being homeless?

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by rdouble »

randomsearch wrote: post #61
nether wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's much easier to be homeless in a lot of developing nations like Nepal, Indonesia, Vietnam. In the US you get thrown in jail/shelter for being homeless, in those countries though many people simply live off the land or work for barter their entire lives. It takes less effort than it sounds, but enormous fortitude to become an expat.

That's funny, because I was walking around San Francisco today and there were lots of homeless people on the streets, not in prison or a shelter.

In the rest of the country being homeless is usually a crime.

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by jbranchaud »

millerc wrote: post #56

Because life is hard. You might think yourself part of an advanced civilization, but the moment you step out of society, you live in a jungle. "No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as any manner of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me,…

The OP is not suggesting the rejection of community, he/she is suggesting the rejection of a 'life'style -- the American lifestyle. Clearly community is essential and I doubt the OP would disagree with that.

Re: Why do we waste our lives as servants?

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Post by coreyja »

rdouble wrote: post #68
randomsearch wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's funny, because I was walking around San Francisco today and there were lots of homeless people on the streets, not in prison or a shelter.

In the rest of the country being homeless is usually a crime.

What do you mean? While there are places that may look down on homeless people more than San Francisco, I don't think there is any place in the US were being homeless is a crime. That would be unconstitutional.

Maybe you are saying that homeless people are more likely to be criminals, which may or may not be true. But I can't imagine a place in the US where just the act of being homeless is a crime. Do you have a source or a reference to backup that claim?

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