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Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#151

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The term "startup" originated during the dot-com bubble. Wow, you get some bullshit ideas about business if you get your mba at wikipedia.

I may have quoted it wrong. Wikipedia says it became popular during the dotcom bubble.

Let me try this again. When I said "Wow, you ..." I was really saying: "If all you're contributing is rephrased sections of wikipedia, perhaps you shouldn't be trying to sound like an authority"

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#152
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And in 90 days, you will be served with divorce papers.

Screw you dude. For someone with over 1k karma and an almost 3 year old account, you should know better than this.

This is a community meant for us, hackers and entrepreneurs, to help and support each other out. Posting shit like this when a guy is exposing his deepest anxieties to the world and reaching out for help should make you ashamed.

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#153
I had a moment just like this. We would be short $20k on payroll and the founders and myself and to come up with the difference. That sucked. Reality really sinks in when you are not in a good place to write those checks but you write them anyways. It was the responsible thing to do. Also, don't be a dick. Inform your employees that they need to keep their options open.

My biggest regret was allowing my VC to convince me to not worry about money...but you live & learn.

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#154
post #131

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There isn't consensus on what the vague term "startup" means. Here's a different definition, from Steve Blank: > "A startup is an organization formed to search for a > repeatable and scalable business model." [1] [1] http://steveblank.com/2010/01/25/whats-a-startup-first-princ...

This is still a growth focused definition: "repeatable and scalable" is really saying "growable".

Here's an article with examples from popular media:

  > Steve Jobs often speaks of Apple's "startup" culture. 
  > ... an article in the New York Times referred to 
  > the seven-year-old airline Virgin America 
  > as a startup. [2]
[2] http://readwrite.com/2010/07/12/how-do-you-define-startup

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#155
post #97

So, it sucks, but it happens, and it won't matter nearly as much in June 2014 as it seems to right now. Your co-founder will, hopefully, not find out about this through guessing "Is this my company?" on Twitter, but rather in hearing it from you. You may be heartbroken about it, you may cry a bit (totally OK). Then, you will put on your Responsible Adult pants, call your employee into the office, and tell them the si…

I would add one more thing. Before you do all this, take 2 to 3 days of absolute vacations (no email, no TV, do absolutely nothing) - this might be just a "dip" and you might be able to find a way to make things successful.

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#156

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This is more about an internalized understanding of the type of business you are building for the founders than it is about external perceptions. That can be difficult for some, particularly with the prestige we in this community attribute to the word "startup". But understanding the needs of your business and how you want to grow it are key. If you're thinking of your business as a startup, that massive growth is th…

I think we understand that you believe businesses that don't aim for shoot-the-moon growth shouldn't call themselves "startups". The problem is, not everybody agrees with you. I've done both kinds of companies and don't think growth trajectory is the defining feature of a "startup". I'm also not particularly interested in debating the point, since it has very little to do with the story we're commenting on. (I also u…

My only point is to offer hopefully helpful advice to the legions of folks who come to HN wanting to learn how to start their own business for the first time. Many unintentionally assume they need to operate like a startup to their own peril, when in fact they could have had a successful business if not for chasing that label. Certainly no intention of being "mean-spirited". The fact that it might come off that way likely speaks as much to the aforementioned prestige which we place on the term "startup" as anything.

I think creating a business can be one of the most rewarding things a person can do, and I want as many people to find success in that as possible.

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#157
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I would call any new business a startup, but call the VC-driven, exponential-growth-seeking model "growth startup". I think you make a great point, but out of curiosity, what do you suggest are the best avenues for funding a tech business in the more traditional revenue-driven-growth model, if you're not bringing enough seed capital to get off the ground on your own? It seems like what's missing is an accessible happ…

>I think you make a great point, but out of curiosity, what do you suggest are the best avenues for funding a tech business in the more traditional revenue-driven-growth model, if you're not bringing enough seed capital to get off the ground on your own? Traditionally, you start the business after you have some experience in the field, and either have some skill you can use to drive some revenue, or some capital. Thi…

It's a relatively new idea, but I don't think things have changed in a bad way in that sense. The sort of people you speak of typically have plenty of experience using the sort of products they develop. Is it a problem to let people try to start business while they're relatively unencumbered and near peak creativity?

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#158
This is a fantastic headline and a good writeup, but ... why?

Perhaps it's cheaper than a psychologist, but in the process of being "stretched so thin" why are you spending time and effort into something that won't materially help you.

Dude, you have 30 days left. Don't be one of those football teams that gives up with :30 left on the clock. If you're going to lose anyway, throw the ball into the fucking end zone and try your hardest until the game's officially over.

Use your name. Tell us and the world about your company. Ask for ideas and help. Take advantage of this medium to try and turn it around with a Hail Mary pass instead of quitting early. There may be plenty of time for psychoanalysis in August, so what have you got to lose?

There are already 148 people on HN who care enough to comment. And thousands of readers, all of whom are tech savvy and perhaps more. You just never know.

Even if it fails, you'll go down a fighter instead of an anonymous blogger bemoaning his bad fortune. Which would you rather be?

Good luck,

    Ken

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#159

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If you know you're screwed, and you've made a couple of million bucks, why aren't you just closing up the company and going home to have a money party? That probably sounds quite harsh if it's something you love, but a million bucks is like economic freedom for life, and you can try again with a different idea later where there's less active competition. Sounds to me like you did pretty well for yourself.

In this day and age, a million bucks is not even close to an economic freedom. @webwright has a good post on what he calls "Fuck you money", the amount you'd need to retire rich. Well worth the read. http://www.tonywright.com/2010/no-you-cant-retire-rich-at-30...

That article may be worth reading, but it is about retiring "rich", not simply retiring. It assumes a yearly lifestyle cost of $200k per year, which is redonkulously high. You don't need to be "rich" to be economically "free".

Most people can live quite comfortably for far less than $200k/yr when they are debt free and (figuratively) sitting on a giant pile of cash, especially if they aren't tied to living in SV, NYC, etc.

Re: My Startup has 30 Days to Live

#160
post #97

So, it sucks, but it happens, and it won't matter nearly as much in June 2014 as it seems to right now. Your co-founder will, hopefully, not find out about this through guessing "Is this my company?" on Twitter, but rather in hearing it from you. You may be heartbroken about it, you may cry a bit (totally OK). Then, you will put on your Responsible Adult pants, call your employee into the office, and tell them the si…

Ask yourself: who did you compete with to hire that developer? Are they still short of somebody?

The one time so far in the history of Shadowcat I've had to cut people for no reason other than lack of money, I talked to managers I knew at other companies who might have an interest in the sort of talent that I was about to force onto the market.

Two people finished working for me on a friday and started a new job on the following monday. The reduction in stress and guilt and hence increase in my capacity to focus that resulted from knowing that was the outcome for them repaid the time spent finding them new gigs within a handful of days. Maintaining a positive relationship with those people afterwards - and the attitude of people who saw how I'd handled it - was effectively just gravy.

Or: Handling this sort of situation with honour tends to help turn it into a positive sum game.

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