Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
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Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#2I've checked russian version of Putin's words, he really said that Snowden is still in Moscow.
Also, there is a wikileaks twit: "Cancelling Snowden's passport and bullying intermediary countries may keep Snowden permanently in Russia. Not the brightest bunch at State.".
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/349556329645473792
So he remains in Russia, and he probably has problem getting to Ecuador.
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#3Should read, Russia can't turn over Snowden until Putin gets something for it.
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#4I've checked russian version of Putin's words, he really said that Snowden is still in Moscow. Also, there is a wikileaks twit: "Cancelling Snowden's passport and bullying intermediary countries may keep Snowden permanently in Russia. Not the brightest bunch at State.". https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/349556329645473792 So he remains in Russia, and he probably has problem getting to Ecuador.
Does he actually say there is no extradition treaty? That is very surprising.
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#5Also, "Ex-CIA official: Snowden probably questioned by Russians
“The likelihood that there’s either been no conversation with him or they haven’t downloaded stuff from his electronic gear is about zero,” Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director of counterterrorism, told Matt Lauer."
http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-official-snowden-probably-q...
In other words, considering how US has promised to treat him, Snowden has almost no options. The Russians hold all the cards and know how to play them well. USA should have advised his family to hire a lawyer for him and issue a pardon while he was in HK, before spilling all the other info he has.
Well done, morons!
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#6"Can't" here should be read in the same sense as "he hasn't crossed our border" (Russia) and "the extradition request wasn't filled out properly." (Hong Kong/China) Since this is an espionage case, there is really nothing about the crime offensive to Russia or China, and these countries really don't want to seem subservient to the United States. At the same time they don't want to damage their relationship with the United States, so they keep trying to punt on the issue by not arresting him but not letting him stay put, hence the creative use of words.
Snowden is probably in good shape. If he can't leave Russia for one reason or another, that may change the moment Russia wants someone accused of a crime in Russia sent back to them from the United States, which I understand happens. In that case they probably won't be getting anyone unless they swap for Snowden.
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#7Also, "Ex-CIA official: Snowden probably questioned by Russians “The likelihood that there’s either been no conversation with him or they haven’t downloaded stuff from his electronic gear is about zero,” Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director of counterterrorism, told Matt Lauer." http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-official-snowden-probably-q... In other words, considering how US has promised to treat him, Snowden h…
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Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#8Also, "Ex-CIA official: Snowden probably questioned by Russians “The likelihood that there’s either been no conversation with him or they haven’t downloaded stuff from his electronic gear is about zero,” Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director of counterterrorism, told Matt Lauer." http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-official-snowden-probably-q... In other words, considering how US has promised to treat him, Snowden h…
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If there's a will, there's a way.
Maybe drop charges and enter a binding non-prosecution agreement?
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#9Also, "Ex-CIA official: Snowden probably questioned by Russians “The likelihood that there’s either been no conversation with him or they haven’t downloaded stuff from his electronic gear is about zero,” Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director of counterterrorism, told Matt Lauer." http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-official-snowden-probably-q... In other words, considering how US has promised to treat him, Snowden h…
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I don't think that's correct. Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon before he was indicted or impeached:
http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/ford.htm
Re: Putin: Russia can't turn over Snowden
#10Also, "Ex-CIA official: Snowden probably questioned by Russians “The likelihood that there’s either been no conversation with him or they haven’t downloaded stuff from his electronic gear is about zero,” Philip Mudd, a former CIA deputy director of counterterrorism, told Matt Lauer." http://www.today.com/news/ex-cia-official-snowden-probably-q... In other words, considering how US has promised to treat him, Snowden h…
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Sure you can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford#Pardon_of_Nixon