German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
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Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#2"Lubuntu can comfortably run on as little as 256MB of RAM."
It can although I'd call it jogging rather than running. It can work on a P3 coppermine class laptop very nicely. However, a stock Lubuntu live CD does not come with LibreOffice.
Gnumeric is a nice spreadsheet, but Abiword normally does not have built in facilities for mathematical formulas, or for making drawings. There appears [1] to be no presentation application.
I hope the City are making some training materials available along with advice on installing LibreOffice. LO will jog on a 900MHz p3/256Mb one application at a time.
[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Setup#Applications
Edit: I should say on P4 upwards or a Centrino laptop with 512Mb it will fly, and run LO fine with multiple applications.
Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#3Lubuntu is a fantastic choice, I install it on all of my friends' old, crapped up, virus infested Windows XP computers and it has them running like new. The interface requires almost no adjusting to coming from XP, much less so than unity or xfce or even windows 8 for that matter. Throwing away old but functioning hardware should be a crime.
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#4Incredible initiative! Where can I donate :)
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#5seems like a great idea, but knowing how older people can cope with change I don't see this going so easily and nicely for them as the article makes it sound?
Anecdote: 2 of my family members over 50 years old had XP running with Office2003. I gave them Lubuntu and it took them literally months to adapt. For an IT guy it's off course all alike, but actually it isn't. Especially not if it already took you years to master Xp/Office in the first place.
Apart from that, while I applaud them wanting to reuse old hardware, it seems most pc hardware lives for 10-15 years max. So I hope theay are prepared for that with appropriate backup systsems so they can recover all the systems that will eventually, sooner than later, shut down.
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#6Wait... That's what I am paying my taxes for? That's where my money goes?
I am NOT against Linux being more widely used. And I like the idea that the city uses Linux to save money & more efficient.
But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business
Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#7Wait... That's what I am paying my taxes for? That's where my money goes? I am NOT against Linux being more widely used. And I like the idea that the city uses Linux to save money & more efficient. But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business
"But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business"
Not sure where you are from, but in Europe/UK local governments do get involved in promoting what might be described as lifestyle choices. E.g. smoking cessation, getting more exercise, healthy eating, making recycled furniture available cheap to poor people by establishing and promoting 'social enterprises' as we call them in the uk.
I see the free CDs as that really, just saying 'there is an alternative to chucking your old PC away, just try this and see if it is enough for you'. Not so much pushing linux from any political/anti-microsoft position, just saying you don't have to spend (more) money.
Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#8Wait... That's what I am paying my taxes for? That's where my money goes? I am NOT against Linux being more widely used. And I like the idea that the city uses Linux to save money & more efficient. But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business
"But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business" Not sure where you are from, but in Europe/UK local governments do get involved in promoting what might be described as lifestyle choices. E.g. smoking cessation, getting more exercise, healthy eating, making recycled furniture available cheap to poor people by establishing and promoting 'social enterprises' as we call them in the uk. I see the free CDs a…
Yes. Less waste, and in theory users will be given more secure and up to date software experience, which should provide safety and confidence for online shopping, for more tasty taxable purchases.
+1 for environment +1 for Capitalism
EDIT: last +1 for education, and employment. No need to get a new fancy computer to do your homework or write a CV.
Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#9Wait... That's what I am paying my taxes for? That's where my money goes? I am NOT against Linux being more widely used. And I like the idea that the city uses Linux to save money & more efficient. But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business
The intention of the city is not to push its citizens to use Linux. They just want you to install Linux instead of disposing your old PC because it's not capable of running a newer version of Windows than XP.
Sources (German):
- Original motion: http://www.ris-muenchen.de/RII2/RII/DOK/ANTRAG/2927956.pdf
- News article: http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Muenchen-will-Windows-Ausst...
Re: German City Set To Make Linux A Norm For Citizens
#10Wait... That's what I am paying my taxes for? That's where my money goes? I am NOT against Linux being more widely used. And I like the idea that the city uses Linux to save money & more efficient. But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business
"But pushing citizens to use Linux is NOT government business" Not sure where you are from, but in Europe/UK local governments do get involved in promoting what might be described as lifestyle choices. E.g. smoking cessation, getting more exercise, healthy eating, making recycled furniture available cheap to poor people by establishing and promoting 'social enterprises' as we call them in the uk. I see the free CDs a…
The CDs may be free to the recipients, but they were not zero cost. The money to procure them came from somewhere.