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Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

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Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

#1
The movements through the world of this individual "don't amount to a hill of beans".

Is he on a plane, isn't he, will Country X extradite him, won't they, does his old girlfriend still pole dance, doesn't she, what is Wikileaks' stance on him, is he allowed to trend on Twitter, etc.

The great majority of these stories seem mainly fodder for news companies to gain revenue while people voraciously seek more information about a quickly diminishing story. The documents were released, the hearings have been held, there are some lawsuits pending.

But we all know essentially how this will end: Prism isn't going away and Edward Snowden's fate is grim. And while we can discuss myriad elements 'til we're blue in the face, fifteen front-page stories a day aren't going to help us understand the issues any better, nor are they coverage of some important event.

Let's stop turning HN into a tabloid news service and get back to the deeply interesting stories.

"Essentially there are two rules here: don't post or upvote crap links, and don't be rude or dumb in comment threads.

A crap link is one that's only superficially interesting. Stories on HN don't have to be about hacking, because good hackers aren't only interested in hacking, but they do have to be deeply interesting.

What does "deeply interesting" mean? It means stuff that teaches you about the world. A story about a robbery, for example, would probably not be deeply interesting. But if this robbery was a sign of some bigger, underlying trend, then perhaps it could be.

The worst thing to post or upvote is something that's intensely but shallowly interesting. Gossip about famous people, funny or cute pictures or videos, partisan political articles, etc. If you let that sort of thing onto a news site, it will push aside the deeply interesting stuff, which tends to be quieter."

Re: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

#4
> But we all know essentially how this will end: Prism isn't going away and Edward Snowden's fate is grim.

That's a very defeatist attitude. I'm sure that there are better arguments for upvoting or not upvoting these articles than saying "this story is not worth paying attention to because we are completely helpless, let's go back to talking about app store metrics".

Re: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

#8
This is a story that people are upvoting because they find it interesting. It is also a very active one, where new interesting information is coming up all the time.

And "Edward Snowden's fate is grim" so we should stop caring about him? I'm glad to not see this story go away, and I am actually understanding the issues better because of the articles about it here.

Let the community decide what should be on here.

Re: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

#9
Agreed. At some point I flagged every snowden/NSA story on the front page (I believe it was 28 out of 30).

I don't seem to be able to flag any more so I guess that was picked up as abuse, so unfortunately I can't flag any more of these stories.

I wouldn't mind seeing stories on all of this, as long as they are only posted when something interesting has actually happened, as opposed to just because there hasn't been a story on it for 5 minutes

Re: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden?

#10
post #6

Do you honestly believe we've understood this surveillance complex enough that we can keep on with our lives? Why accept that "PRISM [won't go] away" or that "Snowden's fate is grim"? Honestly? Is this cause not worth fighting for anymore?

Is posting hundreds of mundane "news" articles with no substance really fighting?
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