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Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

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Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

#43

I just loved that article a few days back about how brilliant he was for picking HK.

It was brilliant. Hong Kong didn't immediately jump when the US Government said to jump. It enabled Snowden to get away. So let's take score. US military has over a hundred bases globally. The CIA operates in over a hundred countries. The US intelligence budget is over $80 billion. The NSA can 'see' practically everything. And there goes Snowden, escaping on a common commercial flight out of Hong Kong. If anybody loo…

HK is also one of the few places in the world that both offered a reasonable chance of not turning him over and didn't arouse too much suspicion when he requested time off.

I can't imagine the NSA looks too kindly on non-business trips to Caracas, Moscow, or Havana. Even Iceland could have turned some heads given its recent streak of standing up for itself.

He has roundly ruined HK for future whistleblowers though!

Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

#47
post #20

Why do we know all this? If he had such a perfect plan why does the whole world know where he's headed? Or maybe he's just really bad at keeping secrets.

We know all this because this is a message from those countries. It's big middle finger to the USA. They are saying: we know exactly where he is and what he is doing but we are not going to stop him - because fuck you. If you read the HK press release, this is so well stated actually "Snowden is going to russia and we are not going to do anything about it. BTW, what about you spying our embassy again?".

The HK press release is a beautifully crafted example of how to give a giant middle finger without any bad language.

Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

#48
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was brilliant. Hong Kong didn't immediately jump when the US Government said to jump. It enabled Snowden to get away. So let's take score. US military has over a hundred bases globally. The CIA operates in over a hundred countries. The US intelligence budget is over $80 billion. The NSA can 'see' practically everything. And there goes Snowden, escaping on a common commercial flight out of Hong Kong. If anybody loo…

Or maybe the USG doesn't really think he's all that important.

Maybe, but then their posturing still makes them look stupid.

Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

#49
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please correct yourself. There was a recount, and it ended up showing there was no irregularities. And No, it is not a partisan opinion. Unless you think Jimmy Carter and hundreds of other organizations controlling the vote AND the recount are part of a communist plot.

There was no recount, at least not one that would be considered acceptable by most standards. If I'm wrong please provide a link.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1577180-venezuela-cuenta-otra-vez...

Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please correct yourself. There was a recount, and it ended up showing there was no irregularities. And No, it is not a partisan opinion. Unless you think Jimmy Carter and hundreds of other organizations controlling the vote AND the recount are part of a communist plot.

What recount? I'm Venezuelan, there was no recount.

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1577180-venezuela-cuenta-otra-vez...
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