I just loved that article a few days back about how brilliant he was for picking HK.
Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana
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#12This is slightly strange: the best onward flight to Havana is Aeroflot 150, which departed Moscow SVO 30 minutes ago. This makes Snowden's layover in Moscow likely to be over 20 hours, so one must wonder if he plans to stay there a while. http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/UUEE/MUHA/ If he will indeed fly HK-Moscow-Havana-Caracas without delay, he may finish with flight V04101 on Monday at 23:50 Venezuela time (2…
That wouldn't be a problem, it is reported that "Nobody will detain Snowden at Sheremetyevo, if his visa is alright - police", so he is not in danger while waiting.
Re: Snowden's destination is Venezuela through Havana
#13This is slightly strange: the best onward flight to Havana is Aeroflot 150, which departed Moscow SVO 30 minutes ago. This makes Snowden's layover in Moscow likely to be over 20 hours, so one must wonder if he plans to stay there a while. http://flightaware.com/live/findflight/UUEE/MUHA/ If he will indeed fly HK-Moscow-Havana-Caracas without delay, he may finish with flight V04101 on Monday at 23:50 Venezuela time (2…
Russia Today reports:
"Citing a source close to Snowden, Russian news agency Interfax reported that the whistleblower’s final destination will be Venezuela with a transfer in Havana, Cuba. He will reportedly be on flight SU150 to Havana, leaving Moscow on Monday and then on flight V-04101 to Caracas."
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Venezuela's recent former president, Hugo Chávez, was broadly and openly against the United States. His successor is relatively untested, having been in office only two months. If Snowden stays in Venezuela, it could be an interesting gauge of sentiment there. In any case, there's not much of a working relationship between Venezuela and the US, which is desirable for Snowden.
Thanks. That kind of explains things a little, I did remember Hugo Chavez being quite vocal against the US. But was under the impression that the new government was less vocal in that regard. I guess I'm wrong. And probably Mr. Snowden would be the one to know.
The new government does seem to be less vocal so far. But the person who (narrowly) won the last election was Chavez's preferred successor, so there hasn't been a major change in policies. I think it's still an open question how their policies will developer longer-term.
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#15One question that I saw floating around on Twitter is how could the US Gov charge Snowden on espionage? Espionage doesn't apply or does it?
Let's say you and I share some secret. When I pass that information you trusted in me to a third party (who is interested in acquiring that information) secretly for some favor (cash/kind) only then it becomes a case of espionage no?
When I share facts that were meant to be confidential according to you with everyone through a public channel then how does it become a case of espionage? It's only a revelation albeit a forced one.
How are we placed on this?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks. That kind of explains things a little, I did remember Hugo Chavez being quite vocal against the US. But was under the impression that the new government was less vocal in that regard. I guess I'm wrong. And probably Mr. Snowden would be the one to know.
The new government does seem to be less vocal so far. But the person who (narrowly) won the last election was Chavez's preferred successor, so there hasn't been a major change in policies. I think it's still an open question how their policies will developer longer-term.
In March, Maduro accused the US of trying to kill his opponent in the bid for President, right after accusing the US of giving Chávez cancer that led to the seat being empty in the first place.
Some US politicians asked for a recount after the Venezuelan election, as has become customary. There was no recount.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/17/us-venezuela-elect...
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/12/world/americas/venezuela-c...
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#17Is this a good idea for him anyway, to openly divulgue every step he takes? Or did the information just leak?
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#18Why would one go to Venezuela in his situation? What am I missing here? Or is that just a transit location towards Ecuador?
Venezuela's recent former president, Hugo Chávez, was broadly and openly against the United States. His successor is relatively untested, having been in office only two months. If Snowden stays in Venezuela, it could be an interesting gauge of sentiment there. In any case, there's not much of a working relationship between Venezuela and the US, which is desirable for Snowden.
But the current government is extremely fragile having against them both pro and anti Chavez groups
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#19I wonder who is funding all of this travel.
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#20Why do we know all this? If he had such a perfect plan why does the whole world know where he's headed? Or maybe he's just really bad at keeping secrets.