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Chinese students and families fight for the right to cheat their exams

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Re: Chinese students and families fight for the right to cheat their exams

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Post by dmoy »

This is going to take a long time to change for the better. My Chinese friends who don't cheat because they actually want to learn stuff definitely complain a lot about the rampant cheating. If you want to get into and finish Uni completely legit, you have to work way, way harder than everyone else :\ And you will end up doing worse than people who cheated and got away with it, just have to suck it up.

There's a lot of inertia to solving it, and it's very hard to do across the board. For Uni entrance, there's ~10 million+ people taking the exam every year - that prevents a lot of non-exam based solutions to "who do we let into Uni?"

I do not envy the position of the people in charge of all of this :(

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Post by tzs »

For those who haven't read the article yet, when they say "fight", they mean actual physical fighting:

> By late afternoon, the invigilators were trapped as students pelted the windows with rocks. Outside, more than 2000 people had gathered, smashing cars and chanting: ''We want fairness. There is no fairness if you do not let us cheat.''

Cheating in China goes way beyond cheating to get into school. Two years ago, the Journal of Zhejiang University-Science became the first Chinese journal to use text analysis software to spot plagiarism.

They found that 31% of their papers were plagiarized. 40% for computer science and life science papers. [1] [2]

[1] http://www.npr.org/2011/08/03/138937778/plagiarism-plague-hi...

[2] http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v467/n7312/full/467153d...

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Post by evoloution »

Selecting to enforce more strictly the law in a particular area is unfair and not the way to go when you have such high cheating levels reported in the whole country. To walk the path of the "Rule of Law" they have to make the rules stricter for all.

Re: Chinese students and families fight for the right to cheat their exams

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Post by lsc »

dmoy wrote: post #2

This is going to take a long time to change for the better. My Chinese friends who don't cheat because they actually want to learn stuff definitely complain a lot about the rampant cheating. If you want to get into and finish Uni completely legit, you have to work way, way harder than everyone else :\ And you will end up doing worse than people who cheated and got away with it, just have to suck it up. There's a lot…

Wow. You realize that this world where people care enough about school to put in that much effort is /completely foreign/ to me, right?

Personally, I think the school system I came from, where nobody cares is in bigger trouble than the system where cheating is endemic.

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Post by spikels »

Cargo Cult Education - Schools are built, students attend, teachers lecture, assignments turned in, tests taken and degrees granted. Everyone gets what they want: politicians, students, staff and parents. Yet nothing needs to be taught and nothing needs to be learned.

Doesn't this go on a lot more often then we want to admit?

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