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Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by ry0ohki »

lotharbot wrote: post #33
smacktoward wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was partly shadow-banned myself, on this account -- my comments would show up, but not my submissions. I only figured it out months after it happened (I just assumed the things I was submitting weren't catching peoples' interest for some reason), which was frustrating. At the time the account had more than 4,000 karma, which I would have thought would have been a decent indicator that I wasn't a troll. I eventually…

I also got some sort of partial "status reduction", less than a full ban: my ability to flag posts disappeared. I sent an e-mail and got it reinstated. But I still have no idea what I might have done wrong, and neither does the HN moderator who reinstated me. I understand that the HN mods don't want to have to explain every action, and when someone really deserves a partial or full ban they don't want to announce it…

I also lost Flag privileges, I thought I was being helpful to the community, but I guess not!

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by pavanky »

i_am_dead wrote: post #39
16s wrote: post #36

How can you tell if you are dead?

Set your 'showdead' to on in your profile page and go back to look at your comments. They'll show [dead] next to them. Alternatively log out and see if your comments are still visible.

That won't tell you if you are dead though. I think that is what OP was asking.

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by i_am_dead »

ehsanu1 wrote: post #48
i_am_dead wrote: post #37

I'm in that situation. Somewhere along the line I said something that annoyed a mod and now I can't even create a new account - it's instantly marked 'dead' automatically. Must be either a cookie or perhaps my IP is banned.

Your i_am_dead account does not seem to be dead though.

This is from a different computer. My main computer is now useless for HN. Old account here: http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=Devilboy

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by i_am_dead »

pavanky wrote: post #72
i_am_dead wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Set your 'showdead' to on in your profile page and go back to look at your comments. They'll show [dead] next to them. Alternatively log out and see if your comments are still visible.

That won't tell you if you are dead though. I think that is what OP was asking.

Actually it does show your own comments as [dead]. Or at least it did for me a month or two ago when I tried it. It's how I found out I was dead.

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by andrewcooke »

bjz_ wrote: post #54
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you know you were "ghost banned"? Do you get an email or something?

It was quite some time ago that I was hell-banned, but I think it was because my account got progressively slower, and I wasn't getting any replies or upvotes. I think I might of googled 'why is hacker news slow', and that's how I found out.

are you sure? see my other reply to you here. you can easily check if you are hellbanned by logging out and seeing if you can see your posts. the site is sometimes slow and often people don't reply...

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by pavanky »

i_am_dead wrote: post #75
pavanky wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That won't tell you if you are dead though. I think that is what OP was asking.

Actually it does show your own comments as [dead]. Or at least it did for me a month or two ago when I tried it. It's how I found out I was dead.

Interesting. My comment was made after reading through other posts in this thread. I always thought "dead" just meant heavily downvoted comments.

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by chris_wot »

clicks wrote: post #8
stretchwithme wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An appeal process that allows others to point out the unfairness of the situation. Also, look at which down-voters are subject to the most appeals might indicate who's being vindictive.

An appeal process exists. It's pretty much e-mailing info@ycombinator.com and saying something like "Hey, have I been banned? Please undo!" (if you feel you were unfairly banned), or "Hey, I realize I said something that I shouldn't have said. I'm sorry -- please consider unbanning?" In my experiences the people in charge of making these decisions are fairly prudent.

I did this some time ago with another account, and was ignored.

Re: Ask PG: Please consider a resurrection vote for the undead amongst us

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Post by bjz_ »

andrewcooke wrote: post #69
bjz_ wrote: post #53

This is not my first account. 'bjz' was hell-banned: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=bjz It was very disheartening - it was a year before I decided to re-register. Anyway, I understand the reasoning behind the current system (HN is a huge target for potential spammers), but it really does create a climate of fear. Unfortunately I don't have a solution to this.

were you doing some weird voting? because the comments / submissions don't seem to justify banning. normally with banned accts it's obvious why. in fact, are you sure you were banned? apart from the last comment, which might have been deleted, it doesn't seem to me like you were hellbanned. your other comments are not greyed out.

Interesting, perhaps I wasn't. I know I tried to make a submission or two and it said 'Slow down!' all the time, and that the site was very slow. I assumed this meant I was banned.
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