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Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

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Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#91
post #7

Expect a response pretty much like this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen...

This petition wont change anything.

We have REAL petitions every 2/4/6 years. It's called an election. You want change, that's how you get it.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#92
post #91
post #7

Expect a response pretty much like this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen...

This petition wont change anything. We have REAL petitions every 2/4/6 years. It's called an election. You want change, that's how you get it.

In a two party system they won't understand why you voted that way.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#94
post #91
post #7

Expect a response pretty much like this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen...

This petition wont change anything. We have REAL petitions every 2/4/6 years. It's called an election. You want change, that's how you get it.

You are joking right?

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Which is why the petition matters - it forces a response from the White House. (Obama promised to respond to each petition that reaches 100,000 signatures)

These petitions don't really seem to matter -- there are plenty without a response. Previously, the administration "promised" to respond to all w/ 25,000 signatures. Now it's 100k. What policies have been affected in any way by these things? Takes about 5 seconds to sign one once you have an account, so the results seem to be pretty close to the effort it requires from the public. Voted for Obama twice but he's just…

The petitions are a good way to gather a list of names for analysis at a later date... just saying!

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#96
post #91
post #7

Expect a response pretty much like this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen...

This petition wont change anything. We have REAL petitions every 2/4/6 years. It's called an election. You want change, that's how you get it.

How will candidates know what platform to offer if we don't tell them what matters to us? If you wait till election season it's too late, they'll be terrified of changing their positions and being a "flip flopper" or a "chameleon". Government is like a giant cruiser, you can't wait till the last minute to change its direction if there's an iceberg ahead, you have to start steering early.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#97
post #69

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I wonder...how many people are not apathetic but scared to sign a petition like that? Also I think many people aren't apathetic about the issue, they're apathetic about the White House's laughable petitioning system.

"people are not apathetic but scared to sign" That's exactly what this surveillance is doing: killing free speech by intimidation is killing democracy.

Or maybe not everyone agrees with you. There's been a lot of discussion about the 'means', but not much about the 'ends'. The 'ends' is the same as giving nuclear secrets to Iran or North Korea.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#98
post #74

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You said it all in your last sentence. You could not ever be him. You're a normal human being. Presidents, regardless of country of origin, don't have that prerequisite. Actually it's a bonus point if they don't have it. The history books will find a way to portray him in a good light. As history books have taught us.

History books do not portray all leaders, even American leaders, in a favorable light. A perusal of history books will come up with quite a number of people portrayed very poorly indeed. A glaring example: Nixon.

When I talk about history, I don't mean about 50-60 years back. If 20-30(or more) years from now a new kind of government emerges and thinks for some reason, that Nixon being a hero serves its purpose, then he will become a hero.

This is being done for thousands of years. Actually it's one of the first things you learn in history class.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

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I'm sure he does realize it already, as does the DoJ and NSA. It doesn't matter to them. If you leak Top Secret material it better be something as damning as the assassination of a politician or anything along those lines, else you won't be shown any mercy by the government. It's really just a matter of "50 years, or life without parole" at this point.

Exactly. Which is why the petition matters - it forces a response from the White House. (Obama promised to respond to each petition that reaches 100,000 signatures)

"Obama promised"

After all that has happened, it amazes me that anyone would put any value on a promise made by President Obama.

Re: Petition to pardon Edward Snowden reaches 100,000 signatures

#100
post #7

Expect a response pretty much like this: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen...

Yes, but honestly that's OK. It's a small step, but for the president to have to come out and say, "I recognize that a significant number of the American people support this man who is convicted of espionage, but..." is a pretty novel thing.

You mean "suspected" of espionage.
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