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Re: Poll: Male or female?

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If we're talking about Erlang, no one. If we're talking about gender, though, it's pretty important.

I am offended by your disrespect for Erlang.

I like Erlang fine, I just don't think it has anything to do with gender. And if I'd seen Erlang articles in recent days instead of articles about gender, I would find this poll rather odd myself. As it stands, I think the question is apropos.

Re: Poll: Male or female?

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Female here, just voted. I just wanted to say I love Hacker News. I'm an introvert and a nerd before I am a female, so I am of course drawn to Hacker News because it's a great place to find other over-sensitive folks who take themselves, their questions, and other peoples' questions very seriously. As others point out again and again, the quality of discourse here is just really high. Secondarily, but still present,…

a/s/l?

it's threads like these that will forever keep me from accumulating any karma on here.

Re: Poll: Male or female?

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Sure, I'd definitely recommend it to women who are into hacking, but the number of women who are into hacking is low. Success rate is probably going to be similar to women recommending a site about fashion to male friends. I agree with making sure people are aware what they can do, what is possible etc, but trying to make everything a 50/50 split between sexes is an unachievable waste of time IMHO. Lets embrace and c…

Attentiveness to fashion is a cultural difference, not a gender difference. "Celebrating" the gender gap in engineering is a very bad idea.

>> "Attentiveness to fashion is a cultural difference, not a gender difference."

In my experience, and on average, to boys, what they wear doesn't matter one bit. It's irrelevant. Girls like nice colors etc from the earliest ages - before any culture can play any part.

There are more gay men in the fashion industry than straight men. Do you think that's also a 'cultural difference' rather than something biological? Is being gay a 'cultural difference'?

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OK. So, what's actually far more interesting to me is how much attention my idle ramblings about why a company like YC might (not that they do) encourage or even prefer female founders have gotten. I didn't realize reverse discrimination was such a sensitive area amongst the technical elite, particularly since males have had a dramatic lead for as long as technology has existed (a more pronounced lead than in pretty…

Part of what makes this sort of thing a touchy subject for so many people is that, in the event of this sort of process being practiced (1) men who aren't selected feel angry about the nature of the process instead of feeling that they need to improve themselves to improve their chances for the next round, and (2) women who are selected are sometimes (often?) demeaned by men as needing additional assistance in order…

As to why I personally supplied such a detailed response; it's mostly an opportunity to procrastinate by trying to change some minds regarding an issue important to me instead of working on something I've been avoiding.

We're all more alike than we are different around here, aren't we? I've been working on, and not enjoying, some PHP code all weekend long. Procrastination is the mother of silly arguments on the Internets, it seems.

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Female here, just voted. I just wanted to say I love Hacker News. I'm an introvert and a nerd before I am a female, so I am of course drawn to Hacker News because it's a great place to find other over-sensitive folks who take themselves, their questions, and other peoples' questions very seriously. As others point out again and again, the quality of discourse here is just really high. Secondarily, but still present,…

As I write this, 4.55% "of those that answered" are female. That seems surprisingly high to me, so I think you could be right. It will be interesting to see whether the relatively high number of women will help keep the conversation civil and respectful.

I'm wondering this because in the UK it's understood that mixed schools are better for boys because they behave better in the company of girls, however, it's worse for girls because the boys still muck around enough to distract from education; girls on their own do better.

Re: Poll: Male or female?

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"I do wince and get bummed out whenever I read certain comments here..." I used to. I don't anymore. My (totally illogical) belief system regarding hn comments: If we agree, then I think, "Great! I'm on the right track." If not, then I think, "They just don't understand (yet)." May not really make sense, but I always leave hn feeling better, never worse.

Heh. No, your description does make sense, and made me laugh. Never do I feel more validated than when reading a Paul Graham essay, ("Guess who's not crazy?? Me!"). As I said above, I freely admit I'm oversensitive, something I probably share with many HN users. Maybe one reason I wince here at HN more than elsewhere is because I'd otherwise consider HN somewhat of an intellectual refuge, with peers. So when you read…

I also feel out of place: Although I'm male, I'm old, have a family, I have tech credentials, but not in programming--in fact, I feel like I'm forever the novice. My tools aren't "cool," but they were new to me (OOP-Java, web scripting-PHP; in fact, they were berated in this very thread) so I "learned" them.

But I'll tell you a secret: edw519 has it exactly right. In fact, his attitude is the single, predominant trait I've seen in successful CEOs (or other group leaders). "They don't like * because they don't get it yet" is a very useful mindset for dealing with rejection ("why aren't they buying my product?"). They vary widely in their other personality traits; some are outgoing, others introverted, etc. But CEOs/leaders that convey that attitude to the group keep the whole team up. And feeling up is far more productive than feeling down!

Re: Poll: Male or female?

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Do you really need a poll for this? Just like every other tech site it's a bunch of 18-35 year old dudes sitting around clicking reload every 20 minutes.

I think you underestimate at least the top end of that age range. I am quite certain that a number of folks on HN are well above the age of 35. PG is in his 40's, and I'm sure he's not the only one here in that category (and I wouldn't be surprised to find hackers older than that here -- perhaps much older).

Now THAT would be an interesting poll

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Re: Poll: Male or female?

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Well, quite frankly, I'm glad YC look at other criteria. Positive discrimination is a terrible thing. Imagine being a woman funded by an investor making an effort to focus on female-led startups. The world knows you were only funded because of your chromosomes. Self-esteem is a big enough problem as it is!

I think a venture firm that privileges woman ran startups with a focus on women-markets would be great. After all who does most of the spending in a household? Remember that web apps represents only a tiny tiny fraction of consumers' expenditures.

If we're playing the household card, then there are plenty of women-led kitchen table startups that will never see, nor need, venture funding. There are also plenty of women-led startups that don't focus on female markets, and male-led startups that do, inadvertently or otherwise (time for a quote about how most car purchases are down to the woman in the household).
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