On Confirmed Assumptions or, Not Trusting Google is a Good Idea

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Post by __hudson__ » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 7:48 PM UTC

On Confirmed Assumptions or, Not Trusting Google is a Good Idea
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Post by __hudson__ » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:24 PM UTC

I wonder if donating to wikileaks or even sending an email to wikileaks offering to volunteer would be enough to interest someone in government in getting all your 1's & 0's.

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Post by signed0 » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:35 PM UTC

If Google has records of all emails that have been sent and deleted, presumably even if you don't have a Gmail account the government could ask Google for all emails that had ever been sent to your account.

Just as the Syrian government is unlikely to be able to get Google to give them information on particular dissidents, it would be wise for American activists to choose a email provider that is not located in the United States.

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:35 PM UTC

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:36 PM UTC

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Post by tantalor » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:39 PM UTC

Presumably the same justification/reasoning could be used to serve a home/business search warrant.

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Post by Semiapies » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:39 PM UTC

"Not trusting" in this case is more of an operational than moral/ethical judgement, and more general than Google - you can't rely on privacy from any company if the government can send them a letter saying, "Gimme everything on this guy, bitches."

And, well, if you don't want to run to Hong Kong, you're pretty much the government's bitch in that circumstance...

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Post by farinasa » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

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I think you need to update yourself on the details/arguments surrounding this particular debate before commenting.

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Post by rasterizer » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

Abit harsh on Google. I mean what are they to do?

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Post by daviddoran » Fri, Jun 21, 2013, 8:43 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #6

Presumably the same justification/reasoning could be used to serve a home/business search warrant.

Would a judge approve the warrant though? Just because this person communicated with Assange?