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Re: Battery Swap [video]

#11

Post by TheAnimus »

arethuza wrote: post #7
noir_lord wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First why would you make the battery sites unattended anymore than the average petrol (gas) station is unattended? (particularly in the near term where these are essentially prototypes). Secondly here in the UK we have fully automated petrol stations and they have a low theft rate, high quality CCTV plus the need to put in a credit/debit card before it'll start pumping makes sure of that. There are other issues with…

Actually, to my surprise, it appears that batteries must be worth stealing. I was disappointed recently when cycling east out of Edinburgh to see that pretty much all of the solar powered lights along the path between Newcraighall and the Queen Margaret University campus have been systematically robbed. Initially I thought it was vandalism but after looking at a few it was clear that each one had been broken into for…

Put on high vis jacket, people would assume you were servicing them rather than being naughty.

I don't know much about the lighting on this path, but I wouldn't have thought they were using expensive batteries? Then again people die stealing copper worth a few hundred quid.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

#13

Post by emiliobumachar »

arethuza wrote: post #7
noir_lord wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First why would you make the battery sites unattended anymore than the average petrol (gas) station is unattended? (particularly in the near term where these are essentially prototypes). Secondly here in the UK we have fully automated petrol stations and they have a low theft rate, high quality CCTV plus the need to put in a credit/debit card before it'll start pumping makes sure of that. There are other issues with…

Actually, to my surprise, it appears that batteries must be worth stealing. I was disappointed recently when cycling east out of Edinburgh to see that pretty much all of the solar powered lights along the path between Newcraighall and the Queen Margaret University campus have been systematically robbed. Initially I thought it was vandalism but after looking at a few it was clear that each one had been broken into for…

There are people who steal manhole covers for the scrap metal. (Yes, submitting others to hazard). It's not necessarily much profitable.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by mtgx »

visakanv wrote: post #2

Can't wait to see Tesla grow and change the way we think about automobiles, at a species level.

Elon thinks most cars in production will be all-electric by 2030. I think that's achievable.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by Shivetya »

phreeza wrote: post #4
kryten wrote: post #3

Considering human nature first, and the assumption that these battery swap sites will probably be unattended, I wonder how long before someone will work out how to steal those batteries?

About as easy as stealing gas from a gas station. Slightly higher payoff, but still I don't see that as a huge problem, especially as the batteries probably all have serial numbers.

given their size there is more than enough room to put any amount of tracking gear you want into these packs. In fact I would be surprised if they haven't done that.

Why shouldn't the pack phone home? Why wait for drop off or exchange to report how it operates? If anything a black box system in one of these packs could provide a wealth of immediate information about operating characteristics that would benefit Tesla and battery manufacturers. It could all be done fully protecting the drivers privacy.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by jlgreco »

Shivetya wrote: post #15
phreeza wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About as easy as stealing gas from a gas station. Slightly higher payoff, but still I don't see that as a huge problem, especially as the batteries probably all have serial numbers.

given their size there is more than enough room to put any amount of tracking gear you want into these packs. In fact I would be surprised if they haven't done that. Why shouldn't the pack phone home? Why wait for drop off or exchange to report how it operates? If anything a black box system in one of these packs could provide a wealth of immediate information about operating characteristics that would benefit Tesla…

How would they power the tracking equipm... oh wait.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by blackdogie »

I would like to know is there a capacity for the number of battery replacements they system can do ? I guess they recharge your battery and pass it on to the next person when it's fully charged. How do they insure battery quality for the replacements. Still a F'ing awesome demo.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by kryten »

gt565k wrote: post #8
kryten wrote: post #3

Considering human nature first, and the assumption that these battery swap sites will probably be unattended, I wonder how long before someone will work out how to steal those batteries?

So you think a company that designs electric vehicles can't secure the batteries? The damn things come from underground. Not to mention the service station connects to the car somehow before doing so, because well as Tesla said, the battery is tied to your account. I wonder how long before people start thinking before posting their opinions on the internet... Can't we all just use some common sense before we start ju…

Banks and post offices get robbed every day. That problem is still not solved.

Re: Battery Swap [video]

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Post by codfrantic »

artificialidiot wrote: post #17

Nice demo. Can someone more knowledgeable compare the range of that Audi with two Teslas there combined at full juice?

Not entirely sure which Audi that is. Lets assume: http://www.autoweek.nl/auto/58469/audi-a8-l-30-tfsi-quattro 90 liters at 9.3 km/liter = 837 km. Compared to Tesla's claimed 426 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S)
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